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  1. Glenn101

    Wayment & Givens interview

    A lot of people do reconceptualize their spiritual experiences to the point of losing their faith. I do not see the point in renegotiating with myself the validity of the experiences I have had in the face of ever changing secular ideas about what little we do know of history. I was not there for any of the events that are in question so I cannot speak informedly on them. And I cannot ascertain with certainty whether a person such as Jesus actually lived, was martyred, and was resurrected. But I can look back with certainty on the fact that I did have some spiritual experiences which have confirmed to me the validity of my faith in those events. The doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints depend upon there being a historical Jesus, a historical crucifixion, and a historical resurrection, as well as a historical Book of Mormon. The experiences that I have had have convinced me that such is the case, so I have to necessarily shelve anything, any questions that arise for which there is no ready answer. I believe wholeheartedly that such answers will come at some point in time, whether in mortality ot in the next space beyond this time. And I just don't worry about it. I agree with Clark that "A living testimony has to be rediscovered over and over again otherwise it simply dissipates due to the above cognitive process." I don't actually looking at it as rediscovering my testimony over and over again, but rather building it a bit at a time. There was a point in time when I did have to rediscover my testimony which caused me to shed my doubts and left me with the level of certainty that i now enjoy. Glenn
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    Therapeutic Ministering

    Ministering can be therapeutic for the self in many ways. And yelling can be therapeutic. Of course there is the spiritual satisfaction in and of itself. But last night I had the opportunity to visit and elderly brother who is even more hard of hearing than I am. We had a wonderful conversation talking, almost shouting at to each other as we got acquainted. For once the missionaries that I was going out with had nothing to say. One of them did offer a prayer but I did not understand it and I am sure my new friend did not either. But it was a really enjoyable visit. NowI have a mission to help him find funding for some hearing aids. If anyone has any ideas I would like to hear them. Glenn
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    The Nature of Agency

    I can understand the epigenetics part as that is changes in genes over time. Am not sure as to the DNA part as they both come from the same zygote. The similarity between twins raised apart does not really pose a problem for those who propose a spirit. It does call for a bit of speculation though, but a reasonable one. With an assumption that we had friendships and loves in the pre-existence it is reasonable to speculate that very similar spirits with close friendship bonds would be allowed to come to this earth as twins. Glenn
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    Therapeutic Ministering

    Thanks Raingirl and Tacenda. I am sending the info to the Bishop while I keep looking myself. There is something somewhere.
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    Antimormons

    I would not wish to paint a critic of the Church with and anti-Chris label or an anti-Mormon label. Maybe this has something to do with the new guidelines. I actually think the label should be done away with. There are critics of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in varying degrees. I think that the labels are a discouragement to reasoned discourse for those who maybe are willing to do so if the label is applied with a one size fits all glove. There are the more virulent critics who do not seem to wish to engage in a discussion but only to criticize. I can put those on mental ignore and cease trying to have a conversation with them. (That is getting easier all of the time since my mental is shrinking anyway. 😎) Glenn
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    Antimormons

    Because it is better not to use Christ's name in describing those who are against His church???
  7. I think that the wake up calls for college students mostly will come when they graduate and have to face the reality of making a living. The entrenched positions that I am referring to are with those who are older, past their college years, usually. Glenn
  8. Fortunately that is not the ultimate argument.
  9. Ben Shapiro has become a formidable debater because he researches the different issues thoroughly and has the facts and statistics in his head and can cite them without the use of notes, etc. when he is debating someone. I have not seen where he has changed the mind of any of the people he has debated, but I have seem him leave an opponent with nothing but emotions with which to reply. One of his lines is "Facts don't care about your feelings." There is little hope in changing the minds of a person who has an entrenched position in a debate. And, normally if two or more people are ready, eager, for a debate, they probably are pretty entrenched in their positions, whatever that may be. The only thing that either side can hope to accomplish is to marshal the facts they wish to use to bolster their arguments and present them in a coherent, persuasive manner so they will be able to sway those who may be listening in who have not already formed an entrenched type of opinion. But that is just my opinion. Glenn
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    Accepting God's Will

    This was not a regularly scheduled tax time, as in that it happened on a regular, periodic basis. It appears to be more of a census or registry for taxes from what I can determine from different articles on the subject. Glenn
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    The Nature of Agency

    I am talking about the genetic aspect to which you made a reference. Often identical twins do make very similar choices, but then there are others who take decidedly different paths, especially after they leave the home environment. Glenn
  12. Glenn101

    The Nature of Agency

    Based upon that premise, why wouldn't the outcomes of identical twin brothers or sisters raised together be exactly the same? Glenn
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    In case it turns out you are wrong...

    Changed, isn't this a type of making God in your own image, the image of how you think things should be? If we believe that there is a God, don't we have to really find out what the truth is about Him rather than try to apply our ideals with our necessarily limited understanding of eternity and what a loving God actually would or would not do? If there is a God, whether it be the God as envisioned by Islam, Buddhists, the Romans, the Greeks, or some variant of God as envisioned by Christians, that God is who we have to deal with. And maybe there are those who would not wish to deal with a God as envisioned by any of the different religions, the reality is that whatever He is or is not, we will have to deal with that reality. I personally believe in a just, loving God, but I also believe that I do not know enough, and probably am not able to understand God fully, not even close, from an eternal perspective. The only thing I can do, the only thing any of us can do, is to seek to know the truth as far as we are able to obtain it and understand it. And I also believe that when we pass this mortal portal and see all that God is and what He has in store for us, we all will forget whatever ideals and misgivings that we had about God and His Kingdom because what He has in store for us will be better than anything we can imagine as mortals. In the vision of the three degrees of glory described in Doctrine and Covenants 76 we read in verse 89 "And thus we saw, in the heavenly vision, the glory of the telestial, which surpasses all understanding;" Maybe the most difficult thing is for us to accept that premise on faith when we look around this world and all of the misery, suffering, and injustices that abound. We wonder why God would allow those things, but it is a fact that those things exist. It is a point of faith that we have to accept that there are things that we yet not capable of understanding. And without some type of spiritual confirmation, it is all the more difficult. The latter is what has removed the doubts from my mind, but has yet to give me the full picture. I am still (as we all are) seeing through that glass, but darkly. Glenn
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    “No Action” for Gina Colvin

    I am happy to see this. That is all I can say right now. Glenn
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    Joseph Smith on Mormonism

    In the words of William Saffire, so many have become "nattering nabobs of negativism." I believe that there is a difference between destructive and constructive criticism. What I have learned over the years is to first look to myself whenever I have felt the desire to be critical, to ask myself what it is I wish to accomplish by critical comments and whether what I am saying or intending to say would accomplish that goal. In my opinion, this latest emphasis on the full name of the Church is something that is for our day and time. I am not going to worry about a form of speech by prophets from any other era. Glenn
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    LGBTQ+ Question

    What does the church actually say about the transgender issue? The main area of concern that I can see is an advisement against gender reassignment surgery. As far as I can determine, the biological equipment is the defining line that is used. I can find no information on a stance on intersex problems. The church does advise it members to treat all those with same sex attraction and transgender feelings with dignity and respect. Personally I have no issues with how a person identifies. I am not going to protest against then, demonstrate against them, or make fun of them. There are some practical problems that need to be looked at but I do not think anyone should be mocked or ridiculed for any problems they might have. Those without those problems can never really understand them because there are some thing that have to be experienced to understand just waht such an one is going through. We can accept individuals with problems diferent from our own. There may be problems when a person or group of people define acceptance as agreement. Glenn
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    LGBTQ+ Question

    Please do not fall back upon a "mansplaining" pejorative to try to make a point. That is pointless. My point is based upon the consensus in the psychiatric community. I did hear you on why you feel the way that you do. But do you know why you feel that you are not of the gender indicated by your biological make up? I have had to face my own set of problems and recognize them in order to get help. It took over five years of therapy for me to get to the point that I could adequately deal with my problems and not be a threat to myself or to anyone else. That was before I was diagnosed with an incurable disease that has already claimed one of my friends and a couple of other people that I know. Medication has put it a bay, but there is no way to predict if and when it will return. The medication becomes less effective with every onslaught. I know that my situation is not the same as yours, but I do know some about mental illness. The problem that transgender people have as well as homosexuals who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the teachings of the church on gender and the eternal family. If the church is true, those teachings will not change. Whatever the truth is, eventually we will all have to deal with it. Glenn
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    LGBTQ+ Question

    Anyone who seriously considers suicide or attempts suicide whether fatally or not, has mental health issues. Issues that do not originate with acceptance and understanding but can be exacerbated by mocking and bigotry. It is interesting to note that the the suicide rate among the American Negro population is less than half of of the white population, and has that has historically been the case even during the decades where discrimination against them was pretty much unbridled. Then, the suicide rate among the native Americans is almost twice that of the while population. There are just too many variables to reduce it down to one thing. Glenn
  19. Throughout most of my life I really had not thought much about the Christ actually being tempted. I had this picture of a perfect man sailing through life untouched by the cares of this world with his whole being focused on His mission and yielding to his father's will. Of course there is the story of Christ being tempted by Satan, but in my heart of hearts I wondered just how much of a temptation that was. The part about turning stones into bread when Jesus had been fasting for forty days I really could not fathom because I have never done it. Three days is the most I have ever done and my system actually was numb by the time I decided to break it. I really wasn't hungry at the time. And Christ already knew that He would inherit all that His Father had, so, to me that was not too much. But the Bible actually paints a picture of a very human Jesus. He seemed to show a great sadness when so many of His disciples abandoned Him after receiving the information about Christ's divinity in John chapter 6 and asked the twelve if they would leave Him also. He also seemed to be disappointed when praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and returned to find Peter James and John sleeping. asking if they could not just stay with Him one hour. But Paul in his epistle to the Hebrews said that Christ "cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities" yet "was in all points tempted like as we are" but still was "without sin." (Hebrews 4:15). Was Jesus actually tempted by money? By Power? I do not wish to be sacrilegious at all here, but I am wondering if Jesus actually had sexual desires, was He tempted at times thusly? Was there maybe a component of same sex attraction in His relationship with a "disciple that Jesus loved". (John 13:23) I don't know if I should even bring this up. Mods, please look at this and if it is inappropriate please delete it. Glenn
  20. Isn't there a difference between being outraged at a specific action o set of actions and being "addicted to outrage?" There are differences in the level of outrage felt, how it is expressed, the frequency, and he trigger levels for unbridled outrage. I do believe there are people and groups for which outrage is expressed vociferously and sometimes violently at just the expression of a different opinion by another person or group. It is not helpful to reduce all outrage down to the addiction in discussion. Glenn
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    Is the Bible self-authenticating?

    I think that Jesus answered that is a way when he said "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." (John 5:31-32). Glenn
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    In case it turns out you are wrong...

    Are you speaking of the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints? If our beliefs are wrong in that one attain salvation through any of the 30000 plus Christian denominations, then I see no problem. We believe that Jesus the Christ is our Savior and Redeemer. We believe on His name. The only thing that I can see is that we would be making a lot of extra effort for naught. Other than that we would all be judged based upon the what is in the books about us that are mentioned in Revelation 20:12. Now, as to whether I or anyone else would accept being separated into that herd of goats, I don't think anyone is going to accept that gladly. There is something written about a lot of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Now, what if your beliefs are wrong??? Glenn
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    Skousen & Carmack Lecture Take Aways

    Actually such a study should be fairly easy using the EmodE elements Stanford has identified in the Book of Mormon. As for parallels to Mormon doctrine, one can find them in may other places also. JarMan has a Grotius theory that he is proposing for the Book of Mormon. Connections between John Smith and the Book of Mormon are more than tenuous as they are also to Hugo Grotius or any other person. There is no one secular theory that explains everything about the Book of Mormon. Who do you propose actually produced the complete text of the Book of Mormon? Glenn
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    Skousen & Carmack Lecture Take Aways

    I would agree that John Smith possibly would have have known about their writings. Have you been able to ascertain if those writings were in fact in the Dartmouth Library? I do not see how those writings could be tied to a Book of Mormon type story either. What year/decade would you say Early modern English would have become obsolete? The usage of vocabulary and phrases in the BOM fits the 1530s-1730s. John Smith was born in 1752. He was a Biblical scholar and theologian and would have had access to several EmodE texts. You are aware that is just what Stanford has been talking about? The Early Modern English had become so obsolete that it was considered bad grammar when it the Book of Mormon was produced. Maybe you could peruse some of John Smith's books or other authored texts to see if he wrote in a predominantly Early Modern English style. I recall Stanford noting in another thread on the subject some time ago that it would have to be second nature to a person to employ such heavy Early Modern English is such a text as the Book of Mormon. Glenn
  25. Well, no one died from the conflagration that I am aware of 😎 but some feelings probably were hurt. Of course with a last name like Thigpen I developed a thick skin long ago. (Now there may be some here and there who might regard me as more thick headed or bone headed.) As for the actual debate between competing theologies, it really comes down to an interpretation of the scriptures and the Holy Ghost because there are logical holes and gaps in development of every Christian denomination, all 30,000 plus of them. Glenn
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