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  1. Folk Doctrines about the Holy Ghost

    I used to wrestle with distinguishing between these degrees of the spirit and how they were conferred - especially when I read the account of the faithful Cornelius in Acts 10. How was it the that the gift of the Holy Ghost was poured out upon these gentiles before baptism? A sign that God was no "respecter of persons" and that the gentile grafting into the mother tree was underway. Peter, a devout Jew was initially astonished at this even after God had prepared his heart to understand through a heavenly vision and other infallible proofs. I wondered how this could be in light of other scriptures about the requirement of baptism befor the conferral of such gifts. I always chalked it up as the exception to the gospel pattern. Then I came across a sermon given by Joseph Smith in 1842, where he explained: I've seen many debate that there is a difference between the phrases Holy Ghost vs Holy Spirit even though they are used interchangably in many instances as they have grappled with these finer distinctions. You may want to peruse, "Joseph Smith's Doctrine of the Holy Spirit Contrasted with Cartwright, Campbell, Hodge, and Finney" by Lynne Wilson of Marquett University. A pretty comprehensive study. Mike Sanders
  2. Latter end of the latter-days?

    I recognize that even the prophets and apostles declared that the end was soon at hand in their respective dispensations of labor (Paul comes to mind). And even the men of the restoration believed that God would soon rapt up the scene in their day. And while we may not know the day nor the hour, we are called to be discerning of the times we live in - given it is fairly easy to see doom and gloom on the world's scene in about every generation. But if we look to the prophecies, particularly the allegory of Zenos in Jacob - we see the fulfillment of many of those descriptions in the early restoration movement - particularly in the work of Joseph. The Lord of the Vineyard declares that it is the "last time" that I will nourish my vineyard (Jacob 5:62-72) for the "end is nigh at hand". Now I recognize a phrase like "nigh at hand" can mean a long period of time, but when coupled with latter day revelation like "For behold, the field is white already to harvest; and it is the eleventh hour, and the last time that I shall call laborers into my vineyard" D&C 33:3 This was in 1830. What does the "eleventh hour" refer to?