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  1. Nofear


    I am interested in hearing juliann's reaction to Sis. Oscarson's talk.
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    What do you want?

    At least for me, the levity merely attempts to camoflauge my own hypocrisy and hence is a self-affirming condemnation of my own words. Still, they would indeed be good things if we were all better at doing them. The bonus desire is a bit more subtle. I'm quite certain some of my opinions/understandings of the gospel are inadequate to wrong. I just don't know which ones those are.
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    What do you want?

    I want a church where people sincerely endeavor to be the kind of person that the leaders and members of the church to be. No, scratch that. I want everyone *else* to simply be more patient and tolerant of me and all my personal failings. And for a bonus, they should all understand the gospel in the same way I do.
  4. Opioids are the only good option for a percentage of the population. They may take amounts that in another's body would be substance abuse. Accupuncture or chiropracty works in a percentage of the population. For others it is a placebo or does nothing. Marijuanna seems to be efficacious for a percentage of the population. For many or most it just wouldn't be helpful. Long story short, the church seems reticent to call out blanket rules beyond the current ones. A particular substance could be outright abuse in one person and in the same amounts a medical marvel in another. When one makes a blanket pronunciation for all on things like this, I can usually just ad hominem discount their comments.
  5. I quite agree. Part of the reason I used the phrase "not punishing an accusation" as opposed to "not believing the accuser". I personally would take precautions in allowing my children to have interactions with somebody who was accused but for which there was insufficient evidence to ethically create an actionable response. Just because somebody can't reasonably prove an accusation doesn't been they shouldn't be believed.
  6. The ethics of how to respond to abuse is something I considered with this event. So let's make a short hypothetical where there is a he said / she said scenario with an accusation of rape. For the purposes of the hypothetical no other evidence is available. There are two basic scenarios where the accounts disagree. False Denial -- rape did occur but was denied by the perpetrator False Accusation -- rape did not occur In the false denial situation if the perpetrator is believed the victim receives non-trivial emotional and social harm from the failure to be believed. The harm of the rape is exacerbated. In the false accusation scenario, the life of the accused is potentially ruined with very possible outcomes of loss of employment, imprisonment, family disruption, etc. From a strictly utilitarian view, the harm/damage created by a false accusation is new, significant, and very damaging. The harm from the false denial is certainly not to be discounted but I see it as less than the harm of most false accusation scenarios. Given that ethical calculus, it is better to error by not punishing an accusation without non-trivial evidence to change the ethical calculus as it were. One objection to this is the statement that very few false accusations occur, relatively speaking. Suppose that 99% of accusations are true. Does that change the above weighting? What if only 1% of accusations were true? Where do we draw the line? Believing in Blackstone's formulation, I prefer to error on letting the guilty go unpunished than to falsely condemn the innocent. This is, of course, one of the themes of the book To Kill a Mockingbird, where the community erred by believing the false accusation because the woman was white and the accused black. That same line of reasoning occurred de facto in this thread. Many were willing to withhold judgment barring more significant evidence. More significant evidence did come to light and fewer interlocutors here seem to favor the false accusation scenario.
  7. The problem cinepro describes of Brother Bishop describing other events and not admitting to the attempted rape being a marker of guilt is that the behavior would also be quite consistent with a individual not being able to remember being in the balloon, as it were, even though his supposed balloon trip is clearly described to him. Some have tried to paint this befuddled response as being a possibility owing to age. The truth is most adults would be prone to such an attempt to gaslight irrespective of age. But, maybe, he's just being dodgy from guilt. Maybe not. I don't know.
  8. I'm sure you are familiar with the infamous hot air balloon memories (https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03196318). In more popular contemporary parlance, if her accusations are false, this would be a case study in gaslighting. But, I don't know the truth and so I can't say if it is or not. But, to answer your rhetorical question, yes, yes it is potentially/possibly your lack of imagination. Unfortunately, such imaginations (that you confess lacking) are very much real enough things. The question is whether or not such is applicable here.
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    Stephen Hawking has passed away

    A brief description about Hawking's last paper. It attempts to offer an explanation to avoid a t=0 singularity. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/03/21/i-am-an-astrophysicist-heres-what-stephen-hawkings-final-paper-was-actually-about/
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    End times doom and gloom

    To add to juliann's point, "And in that day shall be heard of wars and rumors of wars, and the whole earth shall be in commotion, and men’s hearts shall fail them, and they shall say that Christ delayeth his coming until the end of the earth." D&C 45:26 Whole earth, heart's fail because we think the Lord isn't coming soon enough ... neither criteria is being met. The world might be getting worse midst the woes of so many positive "metrics". While things are definitely going to get a whole lot worse than they are now... someday. I personally find little to negative value in premature doomin' and gloomin'.
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    Thoughts Re: "Veils"

    Brigham Young said, "there has not yet been a perfect revelation given, because we cannot understand it, yet we receive a little here and a little there. He should not be stumbled if the prophet should translate the Bible forty thousand times over and yet it should be different in some places every time, because when God speaks, he always speaks according to the capacity of the people." I suspect there will be variance of opinion on the relevance of the above principle to the discussion on hand.
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    End times doom and gloom

    Whether privileged or not pogi can/did respond (not saying I agree or disagree). But, the male segment of young white people are the most derided group, at least in the UK. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12051159/young-white-men-most-derided-group-in-britain-yougov.html Edit: this diversion would be mostly off topic so I probably won't respond to replies, if any.
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    End times doom and gloom

    By many metrics the world is very much improving. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2017/11/30/why-the-world-is-getting-better-why-hardly-anyone-knows-it/ https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-end-poverty/ Other metrics that show good trends include abortion rates, teenage sex, drug use, smoking, binge drinking, deaths from natural disasters, etc. By other metrics things are not improving like we would like. But, we ought not overgeneralize those vague perceptions to every metric (or vice versa). We older people (of which I am not, of course) can still talk about the vices and shortcomings of them uppity youngins without misrepresenting the facts.
  14. A quote of potential relevance to the original post: "When men open their lips against [the truth] they do not injure me, but injure themselves. … When things that are of the greatest importance are passed over by weak-minded men without even a thought, I want to see truth in all its bearings and hug it to my bosom. I believe all that God ever revealed, and I never hear of a man being damned for believing too much; but they are damned for unbelief." ( History of the Church, 6:477; from a discourse given by Joseph Smith on June 16, 1844)
  15. Admittedly, it started when I let myself get distracted when a statistic (about men) was (in good faith) cited that seemed questionable. The facts took me down a rabbit hole a bit as they defied some of my learning. My bad. Anyway, I stop.