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  1. Maidservant

    Evolution

    Doctrine is what is described in 3 Nephi 11:29-41. "Doctrine" and "correct statement" are not necessarily the same thing, although there may be overlap. There is no way that cosmological statements are EVER doctrine. They are not 'policy' either, as there is nothing to 'do'. Those aren't the only two choices. D & C 77 is an engagement with another text (Revelation), and its symbolism. The number 7 and the 7 periods of the earth are highly symbolic. It is not about 'true' or 'not true', it is about understanding and being blessed by what the symbolism yields (which it may for some, and not for others). Joseph Smith, of course, was always engaging with the Bible and trying to come to understanding for himself (and changing a lot in the process), much less being able to pass as much as he could along to us. Doctrine is what leads us to Christ, and to become like Him.
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    Evolution

    The whole purpose of revelation, or scriptures, is to lead a person, and the world/its families, to greater healing (=salvation). No more, no less. The whole purpose of the work of the Father and of the Son (the Savior) and of the Holy Ghost is that healing. The scriptures testify to the work of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, which is to lead humankind to their greatest healing. The Church of Jesus Christ (of Latter-day Saints), the scriptures, and its members reject nothing that functions to bring us to healing--life and liberty. The same rejects anything that leads to death and captivity. There is, of course, the matter of our weakness, and only being able to receive as fast as we are able. I like this verse, as, to me, it means which simply have a long ways to go before we understand what is really going on, in any case. D & C 121:26-32 God shall give unto you knowledge by his Holy Spirit, yea, by the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost, that has not been revealed since the world was until now; Which our forefathers have awaited with anxious expectation to be revealed in the last times . . . A time to come in the which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods, they shall be manifest. All thrones and dominions, principalities and powers, shall be revealed and set forth upon all who have endured valiantly for the gospel of Jesus Christ. And also, if there be abounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars—All the times of their revolutions, all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and set times, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fulness of times—According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest. For the record, I do not find natural selection compelling, nor do I find a mechanical/physical universe/planet compelling. I also think some of our science is a big argument about what the 'screen' is made out of and not paying too much attention to what movie is being played on the screen (which is secondary and merely expedient and functional to get the movie across). Not that we can't figure out the screen, but perhaps a bit more perspective. Also, as far as I know, someone correct me if I'm wrong, Jesus spoke within the cosmological idiom of the day--I think a Greek/Jewish mashup--Hades, Paradise, Gehenna, whatnot--and felt that it was sufficient to get his message across. Regardless of creationism (also I do not find compelling), 'evolution' (big tent, there--we are way beyond Darwin), or some other version--the Message is the same. Stop shedding blood and destruction of similar kind. Stop oppressing yourself and one another. Being a disciple of Jesus Christ, and taking on his covenant (i.e. membership in The Church of Jesus Christ), does not mean we have to wholesale accept anything. We are to study, ponder, seek guidance and revelation, and engage with the material under our own agency. So you have set up a false 'either or' question--in my opinion. You can release yourself and others from the weight of that chain--it's not a thing.😊
  3. Maidservant

    How do i gain accept from my family?

    Do you live with your family? Or are they in a separate house?
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    New NT Translation for LDS

    Can't wait.
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    That Deadpool Poster

    I was thinking . . . that entourage is a wailing crowd!!!
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    Is the Bible self-authenticating?

    Would you say that this was done "once" (or?) within historical time, and doesn't have to be "redone" for each individual person? I actually love what you've described here and I can see it (although my own view of the Bible probably wouldn't match anyone's here of any flavor). Because there is this sense of EACH person finding out for himself (in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), in the course of their own life.
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    President Nelson and "Getting our own planet."

    D & C 19:6 Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be no end to this torment We receive what we lived--that's all. We will have made it for ourselves. We can have help from the Savior to overcome what we cannot overcome by ourselves, but we have to let that in. As soon as one of those spirits--I don't know, stops whimpering and says, "What a great day this is! I'm alive! I can smile at the next spirit over and make her day too!" then their outer darkness is over. Over.
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    President Nelson and "Getting our own planet."

    The current prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. = = = = = = = = Human beings, primarily, and all beings, secondarily, are THE alpha and omega of the universe. (I have no doubt that my bunny that died some years ago is ahead of me in the embodying of love, for example.) I would say 'God' but that is an English word with a sketchy etymological history that seems to obscure and confuse far more than it clarifies and reveals. For me, to say 'God' is to say almost nothing except, 'something really good and powerful--the height of ecstasy' or something along that lines. We don't know always what it is ontologically, we can quibble endlessly about the bits, but at least it has to be All That. And we have to smoke some of That--whatever the best way we get told to and agree to. Joseph Smith, when you strip down everything to it's final nugget, said, you know that All That? That we are trying to get ahold of, get approved of, talk to, bow down to even? That's basically -- US. All of us. Each of us. "God", "Heavenly Father" is one of us, we are one of him. By any word or name. A tiny babe that gets born, gets crucified, and rises. That's all of us. As the song lyrics go: "What if God was one of us, just trying to make his way home." So we basically have a universe full of US--but we are all in different parts of the journey. We are independent in this journey--that is, we choose. We have chosen every portion of our journey, and are choosing in this moment. We are planting our seeds and getting our harvest. Our journey didn't start on this third rock from the sun, and it won't end here. We each chose to come here for our own purposes, whatever we knew we needed or wanted in terms of our own progression. No doubt that this particular planet and world (not the same thing!) is being tended by those who are full of love, capacity, knowledge, and authority and came to be shepherds, or are shepherds from outside the timelines. Thank you, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Thank you, Bonaventure. Thank you, Santa Claus. Thank you, Lord Krishna. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, little JJ, who did not have a full mind, but had a full spirit, who gave me all those hugs when he was two years old at the lowest point of my life. They do it for their own progression, and also because at a certain point of progression, you simply stop caring for yourself and figure out 'where it's all at' and become a Fisher of Men. (Thank you "Groundhog Day" with Bill Murray--only scripture you'll ever need.) The destiny of each being in the multimetaverse is to 1) become independent, with all things subject to them, and subjected by nothing; that is, true freedom and integrity; and 2) full and complete union with all (NOT just singular husbands and wives and a set of kids you possess). I would say 'all who know how to be in that union' but those who understand and have entered the state of union are in union even with the noobs and demons who may not know yet that someone--a bunch of someones--are loving them like crazy, yes even right now while they are throwing others into the fire, or picking their nose. Knowing how to build a planet really isn't that hard. We built this one, didn't we? Clue: We did. We've known how to build a planet long before we hit this town. Not to mention that it's all done by algorithm anyway, the coding for this kind of shiz was done a long time ago and now all One has to do is push Play. But to build a WORLD--to be Fisher of Men, a lover of mankind, a suffering servant, to bake bread and give it to your neighbors (brothers! your work!), to change flat tires on the side of the highway for a stranger (sisters! your work!), TO FORGIVE THEM ALL BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING--honestly, you got your world the day you were born. Here you go, this is it--build your world. Build what will surround you. Rescue and touch those around you. Whatever YOU build will be YOURS and will be WHO YOU ARE. There is no OTHER law in the universe. You are not as small and as young as you think you are. You are old--aeons old! This is not new to you! We just forgot! The amnesia drug really worked! Because we made sure it did, because it's easy to remember! It takes a lot of energy to keep us IMMERSED! That's the hard part! The easy part is going home. The easy part is that we never left.
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    President Nelson and "Getting our own planet."

    Honestly, that's the first thing I thought when I saw it typed out, ha ha. But I really do have a huge 'rule the world' bone in my body--I just haven't gotten too far with it. Not dead yet tho!
  10. Maidservant

    President Nelson and "Getting our own planet."

    And here I am trying to take over this one . . .
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    In case it turns out you are wrong...

    I used to think that I couldn't be wrong--that I had to 'get it'--all, entirely--in this lifetime. I get to be wrong, without having any bad happen to me. Most belief systems do not posit a 'sentence to eternal hell', so whose 'true' scenario is this? For example--what if the Muslims are right, you won't necessarily be in hell (Christians and Jews won't, anyway); what if the Samaritans are right (yes they still exist and baptize in the Jordan daily)? I have no idea. What if Odin is there to meet us? Does he have a hell or what are the criteria (I really don't know). But what I'm saying--this scenario has to belong to a very narrow 'rightness', so whose is it and where did you get it? It's not in the New Testament (or the Old Testament--which doesn't mention afterlife at all, so there's that), so it would have to be a non-Biblical 'rightness'. Different belief systems have different consequences for 'being wrong'. And quite often a lot of them are based less on 'thinking' wrong, and more regarding 'doing wrong' i.e. harming others. But what I would do . . . I would fight against this God with everything I am, to extinguish him. So . . . kind of like I am doing right now. My favorite. It means that we carry our 'afterlife' with us wherever we go. WE are the afterlife. THIS is the afterlife. We are in it now--we are in. life. now. Whatever we are at any given moment IS what life is. Alma teaches of restoration--we will be what we already are. Kung Fu Panda and the Dragon Scroll. If we are living in a universe that is what you described, then most of us will be in hell, and I will. still. be. who. I am. I am who I am in THIS hell (earth life), aren't I? And there's even chocolate! We're the dead ones. We haven't yet come alive.
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    The Young Pope

    I just read the Wikipedia . . . is it about a real pope? Or an imaginary one in the near future?
  13. Lovely. The Church continues to assist Yazidis
  14. Maidservant

    Hi, I'm new… …and a topic 😉

    The thing is that in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, there is no 'heaven' in the sectarian sense. Even the device of the telestial-terrestrial-celestial is a description of the condition of our bodies--rather, indeed, ourselves and what we become, or are, at any given moment in time and/or eternity. Our destiny is that same sociality that now exists, but coupled with eternal glory--or, as I imagine, peace beyond understanding. In my opinion, the condition of "perdition" is contemplated far out of balance to the effect it actually has in the universe. While there may indeed be a condition within an endless universe that may be termed 'perdition', there are, what, five people total out of gazillions of us (in eternity) who would ever even be eligible for that. So we are talking about the destiny of five people. Those five people absolutely know what they are getting into, because you can't head to perdition without full knowledge, because anyone with less than full knowledge could not be eligible or defined by perdition (and therefore always eligible for redemption, if not in time, then in eternity, after learning what they need to, to receive that redemption). Joseph Smith said that even after we die, it will take a long time to learn our exaltation. I personally imagine that our learning will be much like it is now--in worlds. While obviously Brigham Young had the idea and said it out loud, I do have a hard time thinking that anyone's destiny is dissolution or could be. As we are all co-eternal with God, at one level at least--neither created nor can be (neither destroyed, nor can be). BUT I do think that, in worlds, we often seem to take steps backwards, in comparison with our true nature as children of God, in order to participate in more limited worlds for the purpose of gaining knowledge and glory. Or perhaps for purposes of rehabilitation, if there is is a lot of blood and oppression on our soul from previous worlds.
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    The White Stone and the Temple

    Birth, baptism/death, crucifixion, resurrection (rebirth)(of which union is integral). (Chiasmus) Your earth life is your white stone with your new name--because right now we are not who we really are, or were--yet, we still are, because this existence on earth is ritual, or ordinance. Being in earth is not life, it is death. We are the dead ones; we have been placed under the waters (although still be held on to). We will be (re)raised to life.
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