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About daz2

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  1. Are people saying that legal marriage for LDS purposes means civil law marriage, not common law marriage, even if, under the law, common law married people are just as married as civil law married people? Is there a handbook source that says that common law marriage (i.e., where the government recognizes the union as marriage) is not recognized by the LDS Church, and that people whose relationship is recognized by the government as common law married still have to go through a civil law process (i.e., formal license and ceremony)? (This was actually an issue that involved some people I knew in the U.S., and the stake presidents and bishops involved did not know of any church policy on the issue. I do not know what the final resolution was.)
  2. Common law marriage, as distinct from civil law marriage, has largely disappeared from the United States, although a few states still recognize it to one degree or another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage_in_the_United_States#Utah This is an oversimplified summary, but civil law marriage means a marriage with a marriage license, formal ceremony, registration. Common law marriage does not require a license, ceremony or registration. Generally speaking it requires cohabiting for a period of time and usually it requires holding oneself out as "married." It looks like in various Canadian provinces, common law "marriage" or partnerships continues to exist and evolve, including things like "adult interdependent partnerships." In British Columbia, apparently a new law grants to common relationships all the rights and responsibilities of marriage, whether or not they hold themselves out or consider themselves "married" As I understand it, after two years of cohabitation a heterosexual couple has all the rights and responsibilities of marriage. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/4-myths-about-common-law-relationships-1.1315129 If this is correct, my question for my Canadian friends, or those familiar with Church operations in Canada, is how does the LDS Church view heterosexual common law marriage or relationships that have all or most of the rights and responsibilities of marriage? Are such couple eligible to be baptized without going through a civil law ceremony? May they be sealed in the temple with a civil law ceremony? Is a heterosexual common law marriage enough to be considered legally and lawfully wedded for LDS purposes? Or is there a policy at all?
  3. Temple wedding policies

    I have not read all of the posts. This may have already been addressed. If any of my children joined a religion that forbade me from witnessing their wedding ceremony (unless I too converted to that religion), it would deeply hurt and probably anger me. It would not make me more likely to seriously consider converting to that religion and probably less likely to do so. I am not aware of any other religion that forbids nonadherents from witnessing a wedding ceremony, nor that penalizes with a waiting period those who choose to marry civilly first. Are there some examples of that?
  4. Office of teacher

    This article from BYU Studies gives some fascinating history of the office in the restored church, how in early days teachers were akin to "spiritual policemen for the church". And how teachers were primarily responsible for what has become home teaching, and over time that duty became a duty of elders as "acting teachers". Interesting things. Ordained and Acting Teachers in the Lesser Priesthood, 1851-1883
  5. I don't think the Church will leave the BSA as long as President Monson is alive. After he passes away, I think all bets are off, regardless of the position of BSA on lgbt issues. I think there is sentiment in the Church and among some of the Brethren that while scouting is a good program, it may not meet the needs of LDS male youth in the U.S.A. And that it may not make sense for the Church to sponsor scouts in the US and Canada for boys when it doesn't in other countries. I would note that the Brethren may (or may not) be a little more accepting of transgender individuals than in the past http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/02/13/mormons_and_transgender_elder_dallin_h_oaks_says_the_lds_church_is_open.html . Also, Scouts Canada has accepted transgender scouts for a while, and the Church has not pulled out of Scouts Canada. http://www.dailyxtra.com/canada/news-and-ideas/news/canadian-scouting-groups-welcome-trans-youth-51449