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Fly Fisherman

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About Fly Fisherman

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  • Birthday 11/11/1967

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  1. I rarely come to this site, but when I do, I often look for smac97's posts: they are full of logical points of view that I never would have thought of. His knowledge of legal issues and the logic he applies to the subjects of discussion is amazing, in my opinion. Calling him "dishonest" and an "embarrassment to the faith" is absurd. It appears to me that you and a few other posters can't counter his logic, so you resort to personal attacks. I hope smac97 doesn't one day choose to stop posting here because of this, but I wouldn't blame him if he did.
  2. If the improbability principle factors into this, then lawyers should start using it in the courtroom. Personally, for me, the evidences for the Restoration of the Gospel indeed do factor in. But only after a spiritual testimony. The explanations for some of those that critics bring up, to me, are exceptionally weak. I still think Bountiful being "nearly eastward" from Nahom to be a pretty good "bullseye". Still, I fully recognize that evidences simply don't work for critics and academic folks. No problem. I think the Lord designed it that way. Evidences help believers - not non-believers. Sorry, this isn't very helpful or enlightening. But, it works for me.
  3. I agree. While a youth, I did some things that required a tearful confession to the Bishop. That was in the 80s. Interestingly, I remember the Bishop asking me if I wanted one of his counselors present when we began to talk. I declined. Then, after the talk, the Bishop asked me if I wanted to follow up with more discussions with him and I accepted and if he wanted me to have him talk to my parents about it. Again, I declined the Bishop talking with my parents. Also, at the end of the discussion, he offered a blessing. He asked if he could get one of his counselors to assist in the blessing. I declined - I only wanted the Bishop to give me a blessing. If another adult would have been present, I never would have gone to the Bishop for help. If there was a window where others could see in, I would have avoided talking to the Bishop. The discussions I had with the Bishop were VERY helpful to me. Having to share this with another adult, and even another adult seeing me in the Bishop's office would have prevented me from having these wonderful discussions with the Bishop. While I understand the need for having another adult present for some of these interviews, I think we need to realize not everybody (including youth) would benefit from another adult being present. I am disturbed that some insist that another adult be there for youth interviews. I would never under any circumstances agree to have an interview with the Bishop under these circumstances with another adult present while I was in my youth. And that would have prevented me from seeking help/counsel from my Bishop in the first place, which was so good for me.
  4. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697571/Study-shows-just-how-generous-Mormons-are-with-their-time-money.html Two schools not affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — the University of Pennsylvania and Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis — did a study and found the following:
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