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  1. They answered the question that should have been asked.
  2. Thomas S Monson cars

    Hugh W. Pinnock made a statement in April 1980 General Conference that does not differentiate between general authorities and lay clegy. I could not find any general conference talk that discussed the "modest living allowance" of the general authorities. On the LDS Newsroom page there is a blog about "The Church's Unpaid Clergy." I could not find a blog about the "modest living allowance." There are some paragraphs in some lessons that mention the "modest living allowance," IMO more people know about the unpaid clergy claim than know about the GA stipend.
  3. Thomas S Monson cars

    I personally am not opposed to the general authorities receiving money for their service. They work full time and everybody needs food, clothing, and a place to live. I AM critical of the semantics used which make the money received sound like it's a lot less than it really is. Phrases like modest living allowance are used to describe the income. If the responses on this thread are any indication, many faithful LDS are in favor of the general authorities receiving a healthy (my word) paycheck for their service. Would the Church risk losing members if the salaries of the general authorities were easily accessible?
  4. The age change will be more difficult to reverse than the length change.
  5. The problem is that if the age is moved back to 19 for young men, there will be a one year gap in which not very many new missionaries will receive calls. Oops.
  6. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    I'm well aware of all the arguments about fallible prophets. However, polygamy was such a defining and lasting doctrine that I don't believe that it can be a mistake and Joseph Smith still be a prophet.
  7. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    Yeah. I forgot that one, probably because it is the most illogical IMO.
  8. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    This thread can be simplified into the following two ideas. 1. Polygamy (especially as it was practiced by JS) is wrong, therefore Joseph Smith was not a prophet. or 2. Joseph Smith was a prophet, therefore polygamy was a correct principle at that time.
  9. I would love it if Nelson would disavow Hinckley's one earring rule. My wife wore two earrings in one ear before Hinckley's proclamation, but immediately took one out after that GC talk. I miss that second earring. It added some sexiness.
  10. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    Claims like yours from earlier come to mind. Do you think he could still have become prophet without a polygamy lineage? What about all the lineages that would have been different without the manifesto? It's easy to retroactively look at a situation and think that anything different would have been worse. Is it possible that the LDS Church would have been better off without polygamy? Certainly there would have been less persecution.
  11. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    It's amazing that people can make things work out no matter the circumstances. Do you think it's possible that some of those involved in polygamy made it work simply because they made the best of the situation?
  12. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    My younger sister had a child out of wedlock. He recently graduated from Law School at Cal Berkley. Does this good fruit make the tree (illegitimate birth) that created it also good?
  13. Reconciling the Lucy Walker story

    Please explain how some polygamists corrupted the practice.
  14. William H. Bonney's Attempt At Diploacy After his employer, John Tunstall, was murdered in 1878, Bonney became involved in the Lincoln County War as a Regulator. In 1879 Bonney wrote to Governor Lew Wallace with an offer to provide information on the Chapman murder in exchange for amnesty. Bonney met with Wallace in Lincoln on March 15, 1879, and discussed the case for over an hour. Wallace promised Bonney a complete pardon if he would offer his testimony to a grand jury. Wallace never granted Bonney the promised pardon. FYI: William H. Bonney is also known as Billy The Kid.