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Everything posted by mnn727

  1. Perhaps, perhaps not. Public education indoctrinates children in ways I am totally opposed to, it was not always this way, but it has been for at least 20 years now
  2. law enforcement, - have not used them - ever (I also have guns for my families protection), I have gotten speeding tickets, should I deduct the amount I paid in those? fire public safety, - The only time I ever called the fire department was for a medical emergency, which they billed me for (and I paid promptly), again, should I deduct that amount. public education, - We never were able to have kids, yet I pay for that in my property taxes every year. If we had kids they would have been home schooled. My parents paid their taxes when I was in school. national defense - defense, Yes, I'll pay for that, let me know when we start doing just that. Perhaps we could start by defending the border. roads and bridges - paid for out of gas taxes and also tolls, at least here consumer protection, - some is good, but in a truly free economy, economics would take care of most - especially in today's world of online reviews. culinary water, sewers, public health, etc. - I pay for water and sewer every month, doesn't everyone? The company that built this neighborhood had to put in the utilities, roads, sidewalks, etc, and rolled the cost into the cost of the housing.
  3. That IS what we should be (in fact we are commanded to be), each in our own sphere of influence.
  4. That probably because the youths of the 60's are senior citizens today.
  5. John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
  6. Must we have every answer now?
  7. that's how it tells what you've read , to skip over posts you've read.
  8. I have no clue who the poster of the above snippet is, is but from the snippet of the post that was posted above, my first thought was "sounds like a Drama Queen"
  9. Thats your view, its not mine.
  10. No, because I really doubt this will affect any children, I didn't and still don't see lots of gay parents clamoring to have their children baptized.
  11. And have we built the Independence Temple? Still living the United Order? just to name 2 off the top of my head. There is plenty of precedence. I almost forgot - we have the 116 pages also?
  12. I've Never seen it.I would ask if their Bishop has been informed and if so, has the Bishop asked the member to come in. I do know of one case (when I was Ward Clerk) that there was something going on that would require the Bishop to investigate more, the person was asked to come in but never would come in and eventually moved out of the Ward with no interview. The Bishop could only notate it on the persons record. SO until you claim nothing has ever been done, I suggest you find out "the rest of the story"
  13. "They" did not make that claim - then Elder Nelson is the only one who said that during a BYU address. President Monson didn't claim it, the FP didn't claim that, the Qof12 did not claim that.
  14. You might want to quote the rest of my post which explains that:
  15. My wife's sister is gay, her and her partner have been together longer than my wife and I have. We don't shun them, they've stayed with us and we've stayed with them. Her sister is my wife's best friend. They would never consider joining the Church nor would they ever have any children join (her partner has 2 kids {now adults with kids of their own} from a previous {regular} marriage)
  16. Our leaders never claimed to be infallible. In fact almost every Prophet has warned against us automatically believing everything they say comes from God. Having said that, I see a "passing of the old guard' and a kinder gentler more Christ-like leadership. Elder Christofferson's Brother is gay. Elder Gongs son is gay.
  17. Who? no one here. It was pretty much a non-issue. I guess if someone was looking for an excuse to leave, it was as good as any.
  18. Was there even one case of a gay/lesbian couple wanting their child to be baptized that could not be because of the policy? I can't imagine it ever happening.
  19. Which is why you need the Book of Mormon and also modern scripture and living Prophets.
  20. I'll refer you to the Bible on Covenant (or Oath) breakers to answer that.
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