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Jake Starkey

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  1. Elder Rasband stating up for righteousness is a good example for us. https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2019/11/11/lds-church-denounces/?fbclid=IwAR0R-fk06s7grvo7Ynf5HiGBtWv0H1gnFTJOqTAyFKU1Aqw_zbIiPnPHgR8
  2. I think a religion is ruled out if the first principle is obedience. "Elder Bruce R. McConkie has taught: Obedience is the first law of heaven, the cornerstone upon which all righteousness and progression rest. It consists in compliance with divine law, in conformity to the mind and will of Deity, in complete subjection to God and his commands.Jun 27, 2002 Heartfelt and Willing Obedience - BYU-Idaho www2.byui.edu › Transcripts › EducationWeek › 2002_06_27_Bednar" Elder Bruce R. McConkie has taught: Obedience is the first law of heaven, the cornerstone upon which all righteousness and progression rest. It consists in compliance with divine law, in conformity to the mind and will of Deity, in complete subjection to God and his commands.Jun 27, 2002 Heartfelt and Willing Obedience - BYU-Idaho www2.byui.edu › Transcripts › EducationWeek › 2002_06_27_Bednar" Such obedience led many of our forefathers through the portals of hell at Mountain Meadows. We must find another first principle for such a religion in love and charity that we wish to follow.
  3. The false logic is to suggest anyone is imputing "all wrong to Trump," when all that is is a weak defense.
  4. What is wrong with Trump, Stargazer, is that he breaks the law, violates separation of powers as well as checks and balances. Your equivalency of whatever comparing Obama and Trump is based on false logic.
  5. What is wrong with Trump, Stargazer, is that he breaks the law, violates separation of powers as well as checks and balances. Your equivalency of whatever comparing Obama and Trump is based on false logic.
  6. The dislike and fear of Trump remains well founded, and no one can dismiss it as if he has not created a terrible problem for his fellow citizens. Mexican gangsters operating on and over the borders in both countries outside of the normal law enforcement procedure exacerbate the problem tremendously. This is not war time where cartel women and children could be interned, hostages taken and shot in reprisal for actions such as has happened, and drumhead courts-martial could be held and the bad guys summarily condemned and shot. We are in a civilian world of law that is not dealing adequately with the issues.
  7. I agree with you, bsjkki. As far as the horror of babies and children being shot and killed, keep in mind Haun's Mill and Mountain Meadows. Humans are capable of the worst horrors.
  8. Dr. Mario De Pillis Sr., the great religious scholar, gave an address at Graceland University at Lamoni, Iow, some five years ago. He said the number one reason Mormons of all stripes who stay in their denominations generally agree with the statement "it works for me."
  9. Horrifying. Polygamy is immaterial to the story.
  10. I agree that it was far more cultural than doctrinal a century or so ago.
  11. Anger almost never results in good results. That Jesus did what He did in the Temple does not mean we get to do so.
  12. Preliminary conclusions can certainly be made why the pages were removed and withheld. That they were replaced is a good thing, yes.
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