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About caspianrex

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    Musicmeister, Bible collector, BofM fan
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  1. Hm, I can't really picture that text in that kind of font...It would look interesting, I suppose!
  2. I saw one brief discussion online, where someon suggested that Baskerville might be a better match to the font in the LDS Scriptures. I compared my 1979 LDS King James Bible to the font on MS Word entitled "Baskerville Old Face," and it's a fairly close match to my (untrained) eye. But I don't think it's exactly a match. I imagine the typeface may be proprietary.
  3. In this video about the design of the LDS edition of the King James Bible, there is an interesting section (just after the 36 minute mark) about the printing process: it mentions a Monotype process, but doesn't discuss the actual typeface. Still, pretty fascinating stuff.
  4. @Robert F. Smith, regarding Genesis 1:1-3, I've always thought Robert Alter's rendering was lovely: "When God began to create heaven and earth, and the earth then was welter and waste and darkness over the deep and God's breath hovering over the waters, God said..." The alliteration of "welter and waste" is, according to Alter's footnote, an attempt to capture some of the Hebraic rhythm of tohu wabohu. Then he continues into another alliterative phrase, "darkness over the deep." Meanwhile, the repetitions of "and" seem to give it a headlong momentum that is generally avoided in English translation, but works quite well here, I think. Alter's entire Hebrew Bible and commentary recently was published in an absolutely gorgeous slipcased set. Man, talk about typography being pleasant to the eye! Combined with beautiful dust jacket art and sumptuous cream colored paper, the set is a real work of art in printed form. At just over seventy bucks for the entire 3-volume set, it's an absolute steal.
  5. Where is this day going? I looked at the clock, and it's already almost noon! And I feel like I just woke up a couple hours ago. Time is SO subjective...

  6. Actually, I did some searching, and it looks like the complete text of Parry's book is available at the Scholar's Archive at BYU. Just glancing through it, there's plenty of good information relayed in his reformatting of the text, but it's not nearly as easy to read as, say, Shirley Heater's work in the Restored Covenant Edition.
  7. I have not encountered that one! I looked it up on Amazon, and it's a little pricey...
  8. And you know what's great? You can get a used copy in Very Good condition on Amazon for around ten bucks. WELL worth it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0195027868/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1563366908&sr=8-1
  9. Back to your original post on this thread, @Dan McClellan... I only have the Kindle edition of the Wayment's NT, not a print edition. What do you think about the layout and typeface of Wayment's version, compared to, say, the Church's edition of the Bible? As a non-member, I can tell you that the layout of Grant Hardy's Maxwell Institute Study Edition makes reading the Book of Mormon a lot easier, a very different experience from reading the paperback edition distributed by missionaries. Even though I like the typeface of the Standard Works published by the Church, the double column format can be challenging to the eye. Royal Skousen alludes to that fact in this excellent talk (around the 1:16:15 mark):
  10. P.S. In addition to being a "connoisseur of Books of Mormon," as @Robert F. Smith so kindly called me above, I also collect Bibles. At the moment, my Bible collection numbers over 250 volumes, so when comes to Bibles, and what makes them tick, I get kind of excited.
  11. Almost done with the Mark Ward video. I think I have most of the editions of the Bible that he mentions in my own collection, including the ESV Reader's Bible and a couple different editions of The Books of the Bible. I recently sold my set of Bibliotheca, because that edition doesn't actually have quite enough in the way of chapter divisions for my taste. It was nicely laid out, but I just never felt like reading it. Also, Bibliotheca used an adapted version of the 1901 American Standard Version, and it really is not easy to read. It ends up sounding kind of stilted, but without the majestic cadence of the KJV. Regarding Gen. 1:1-3, a couple Jewish editions of the Hebrew Scriptures read pretty similarly to the way Dan translated it above. The NRSV kind of splits the difference, opening with, "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth..."
  12. Here's an example of the typeface in the Washburn College Bible that I mentioned above... (My phone doesn't take great pictures, so my apologies for the picture quality. Still, I hope it gives you an idea of how the lines are laid out.)
  13. "My blushes, Watson!" -Sherlock Holmes I really like the typeface and layout of the LDS editions of Scripture, too. Looking at the regular sized Quad Combo, even though the type is small, it's quite easy on my eyes. (I also agree with what you wrote about the type in the Skousen BOM: it would be nice if it were a bit darker, but his arrangement of the text in "sense lines" is a great idea. It's actually similar to a lovely edition of the KJV called the Washburn College Bible, published in 1979. Unfortunately, the Washburn College Bible is huge, so it's impossible to carry to church (or anywhere else)! The Preface to the Washburn College Bible describes their rationale behind their typesetting, and it's remarkably similar to Skousen's approach: "The setting of the type is directed not to the achievement of rigid regularity in length of line and column, but rather to the rounding out of sentences and phrases, so that the eye readily perceives and the voice readily conveys the meaning." Some Bible publishers are starting to pay more attention to typography, and making it comfortable to read. Zondervan recently began releasing some of their Bibles in what they call Comfort Print: you can find out more here. I will definitely watch the rest of the video Dan shared above: I always find Mark Ward to be an intelligent, articulate scholar. (In fact, he checks in from time to time at the Bible Versions Discussion group I help run on Facebook, so I'm familiar with some of his work.) Oh, and I don't know if everyone is familiar with this video, but it's about the making of the 1979 LDS King James Bible, as well as the rest of the Standard Works that were released shortly after that. I just watched it for the second time a couple nights ago, and it's fascinating. And they cover typeface a bit, too.
  14. Does the Yale Edition fifth printing have a comma after "upon plates"? Because I thought I had checked my copy of the Yale Edition (which may be an earlier printing), and I didn't remember seeing a comma. (I could go check, but I'm downstairs and the book is upstairs, and I'm feeling lazy...)
  15. OK, I checked out Snuffer's YouTube channel, and I discovered the video below. (It was addressed to all Christians, so I felt like fit into that category...) He may be persona non grata in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but I thought it was funny that he uses the LDS edition of the King James Bible in the video. So he doesn't mind using Church publications when it suits his purposes, does he?
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