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  1. Did the family say that the blessing said he would live?
  2. You’re right, that should not have been possible. Wow.
  3. I agree. From a secular point of view it is very reasonable.
  4. No i'm not saying that the Mormon church comes out on top. It is in the middle. Out of a scale of 100 the Mormon church got a 54. Why would I agree with your faulty reading of the poll? Yes, it's the bottom of the churches but did you read the poll to see what that even means. The survey says that ratings of 48-50 is a neutral rating. Not negative, neutral (and the church is at a 54). The survey also said- Across the board, Americans express warmer feelings toward religious groups when they are personally familiar with someone in the group, consistent with findings from the June 2014 survey. Those who do not know anyone who is Buddhist, for example, give Buddhists an average rating of 56 degrees on the feeling thermometer, compared with a much warmer 75 among those who do know a Buddhist. People who do not know atheists or Muslims rate these groups on the colder side of the scale, but those who do know someone who is an atheist or a Muslim rate these groups on the warmer side of 50. A large majority of Americans (86%) say they personally know someone who is Catholic, and three-quarters say they know someone who does not believe in or practice any religion. Roughly six-in-ten U.S. adults know someone who is Jewish, atheist, a mainline Protestant or an evangelical Christian. Comparatively, seven-in-ten Americans said they knew an evangelical Christian in June 2014. Fewer than half of Americans say they personally know a Mormon (43%) or a Muslim (45%), though more Americans say they know a Muslim today than said this in June of 2014 (38%). Smaller shares say they know someone who is Buddhist (23%) or Hindu (22%). Out of the two of us, I don't feel like I'm the one who is trying to stretch the findings of the poll. So you have no evidence to support the assertion that God should agree with you, it's just your opinion. O.k., that's all I was wondering.
  5. That promise appears in more than just the bible and applies to all of God's children, not just those living on the earth at a certain time. Even right now, when more people probably know about Christianity than have ever known in the history of the earth, the majority reject it.
  6. We weren't the least liked among unaffiliated. And the poll does not say that we are thought of in a negative light. It says that out of the roughly 3,000 people they surveyed, we were thought of in a neutral light. You said "if God did institute these doctrines, then it has put the church in very unfavorable light with the majority of Americans. Kind of an odd plan for getting your children to find and embrace His church." I'm asking if you have any evidence support your assertion that it is odd for God to act in such a way.
  7. It seems like you are saying, if I witnessed a faith healing produce actual healing, then i'd have faith in them. Isn't that a little backward? (not trying to be snarky)
  8. The scripture is in Matt. 7: 13-14. I'm not sure I understand your wondering though. People have agency to choose to follow Christ or not. If few accept Him, that has no bearing on whether or not God wants them to accept Him. There is a difference between reporting what will happen, and causing or wanting it to happen. I think you are conflating the two.
  9. You admit that you don't have faith in healing blessings but then say that you've exercised faith? I'm not sure how that even makes sense? I've never witnessed those kinds of healings but I've had some in my own life that I consider miraculous. I won't share them though. My best friend growing up has experienced a few and the family has shared them before so i feel comfortable sharing them as well. My best friend's brother was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in his teens after struggling with some serious health issues led to the discovery of a lump in his neck. Surgery and chemo were set to start within weeks. He had a blessing before he went in for his final tests before surgery and during the tests it was discovered that everything was completely normal. No lump, no hormonal issues, no thyroid issues in any of the blood work. The doctor flat out said that the results were not medically possible. Her brother received no further treatment and is now in his late 40s and has never had another problem with it. That same family recently had another miraculous healing when the father (in his late 70s) went into septic shock after a shoulder surgery. He was unconscious and had little heart function before he was given a blessing in the local ER in which he was promised that he would live and suffer no permanent damage. He was then airlifted to a regional hospital with an I.V. line directly in his aorta. When they were taking him out of the helicopter the line got caught on a wheel and was yanked out. The doctor later told his family that he should not have survived that (the flight nurse also came in to talk to the family about how he couldn't believe he was still alive and that it was a miracle his aorta was not damaged at all). The placement and size of the needle should have guaranteed that it shredded his aorta as it was pulled out and he should have bled out on the landing pad. And the septic shock should have killed him in it's own right. At the very least, the doctor said his heart should have lasting damage (septic shock attacks organs). But instead he was conscious and talking 12 hours after he went into shock in his home and only a few hours after being admitted to ICU in the regional hospital. He was out of the hospital and back home with no lasting effects (not even a prescription for pain meds) 2 days later. But, it's a given that those who are convinced that blessings do not heal will not be swayed by stories like this That's one of the reasons they hear about them so infrequently.
  10. It's biblical doctrine that relatively few would accept Christ's gospel and follow Him.
  11. Kind of. It depends on who is being asked. For example, Evangelicals get a 61 positive rating, but when you take out people who are Evangelical, the number falls. In fact, roughly the same number of people gave them a positive rating as gave them a negative one (30% and 27% respectively). (Just an FYI-this is an old study. A new one was released last year). It's good to know though that we still come in above atheists. Here's a good breakdown of how each group actually rated other religions. Mormons don't come out too badly. Is it though. Can you share any evidence that suggests that it's odd for God not to care how His commandment are viewed by non-believers?
  12. It's not surprising that that's how you see it.
  13. Let's be a little more accurate. What some outsiders think of the church. Many outsiders think very highly of the church. But yes I get that's what you are doing, but you are pointing it out as if that means something about the truth claims of the church.
  14. Not in my personal experience.
  15. Yes, because everyone knows that it's always an either/or proposition.