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  1. Seems to me your analogy is relatively sound, but if it’s meant to be shared with the secular world, I suspect that world will reject it because they reject the underlying premise, that there is a God from whom we need to seek forgiveness. I’d invite you to consider that just as life eternal is to know God and Jesus Christ, all discussions of spiritual topics are more likely to be fruitful if the core of the discussions is the reality of God and Jesus Christ. Taking them out of such discussions and trying to make spiritual things secular, in my mind, depletes those discussions of their potential power. Btw, I have no desire to have the secular world acknowledge that my spiritual pursuits are rational. Instead, knowing that all of God’s children will kneel and confess the divinity of God and Christ, my desire is to help them remember their divine nature and have their confession occur sooner rather than later.
  2. All covenants and commandments roll up into, and are manifestations of, our love of God and of our brothers and sisters. Jesus said all commandments “hang” on those first two commandments.
  3. I’ve never gleaned much benefit from lists or definitions—the futility of lists of inappropriate Sabbath activities comes to mind. My personal experience has been that I’m fully aware of what’s in my heart when I speak and I’m able to discern whether what I choose to say is appropriate. I’m working on making better choices. That said, light versus darkness is often a helpful guide. What’s the modern parlance for some speech— “casting shade?”
  4. There’s logic in the idea that we could covenant to live the first and second commandments, since all the covenants we make are subsets to those commandments. My personal focus has always followed that conceptualization of all covenants.
  5. Good thoughts. The idea that resonates with me is avoiding laughter associated with mocking or demeaning thoughts or behavior. I laughed when the Rockets lost last night. I’d like to think it was just joyful laughter for the Warriors, but there was some glee for the Rocket’s demise. Not very Christ-like.
  6. If you don’t speak evil of anyone then you can be confident you’re on safe ground. Seems odd that anyone would be looking for permission from God to speak evil of a brother or sister they’ve been commanded to love. Better for us to strive to never speak guile of anyone.
  7. There’s much about this forum that I enjoy. The diversity of opinions. The fact that collegiality generally trumps pettiness. The occasional flash of brilliance or insight. I do wonder, however, about how often the topics focus on the immediate, the narrow; commentary rather than calls to action. An analogy that has always resonated with me is that mortality is an opportunity for us to create; our life is a canvas and we’re invited to use the paint we receive from Deity and paint a beautiful mural on that canvas. With that analogy in mind, are we spending too much time questioning the quality of our canvas, or comparing it to the canvas of those around us? Are we too anxious to analyze how Deity mixes the paint, question what exactly is in the paint, or focus on why others seem to have some colors of paint that we don’t? All at the expense of picking up our brush as often as we might and creating, painting in partnership with heaven. I look forward to your thoughts.
  8. Not sure why you would believe that’s necessarily true. Conversion means exactly that...change. We’ll all have ample opportunities to do so. And if you want to focus on a scripture regarding judgments, I invite you to consider the promise in the BofM that ALL of us will agree that ALL of God’s judgments with respect to ALL of His children are just. That promise should quell any misgivings you have about God's judgments and the fairness regarding the fate of each of His children.
  9. I would feel guilty if I gave you a rep point for your comment but admit to a good belly laugh when I read it.😂
  10. Not sure of the source of your confusion. I’ve never said or implied there was no reason for Jesus to be baptized. Jesus himself taught the reason, which you summarized quite nicely. I pointed out that the same Jesus who was baptized told both a Book of Mormon prophet and Joseph Smith that there was no need for children who die in infancy to be baptized. Christ didn’t see any conflict between His baptism and His teaching regarding not baptizing the unaccountable. I don’t either. I invite you to ponder the distinction between a being with agency being sinless and the state of unaccountability.
  11. They have nothing to be saved from, they are innocent (unaccountable). The scriptures characterize the baptism of children who have not yet reached the age of accountability (and those adults with developmental issues which prevented them from attaining accountability) as a “solemn mockery before God.” TIC=tongue in cheek.
  12. Btw, we as consumers have an incredible untapped power to generate billions of dollars for charitable endeavors. We just need to choose to utilize that power. American companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year to influence our buying decisions. Almost all of that spend goes to some form of advertising. If we as consumers told those companies that our buying decisions could be influenced by their level of philanthropy, then walked the talk by buying from the more charitable company, and then made it clear why we did so, companies would waste no time moving a significant portion of their “consumer influencing spend” from advertising to charitable endeavors. I’ve sat in corporate board rooms and witnessed shifts of significant portions of total ad spend to follow what consumers say influences their buying decisions. We could move those dollars into philanthropy. We just need to get organized as consumers and send that message in a unified fashion to corporate America.
  13. I’m not sure what you mean by the first comment. My understanding is that those 15 billion not only have no need for baptism, but no need for any other ordinance, so no temple work needed...they’re in. I agree with your second comment, although I’d suggest that my TIC explanation makes more sense than some I’ve heard which were not TIC.
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