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  1. SettingDogStar

    Thom Wayment's NT

    I want a copy really bad! It looks extremely good and helpful. The KJV is beloved but it seems like Brother Wayment has been able to preserve familiar wording styles but translate to something more understandable. I haven't read it yet but I'm hoping while he was sensitive to latter-day saint beliefs, he didn't alter any translation efforts in favor of certain church doctrines instead of just being faithful to what the translation should have been. I really don't think he would have done that though from what I've read about his research.
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    The KEP?

    So I’m super new to the what the Kirtland Egyptian Papers consist of. I know that it was some kind of attempt to present translations to characters lifted from some Papryi. Whether it’s inspired, reverse engineered, or if Joseph had anything to do with it is obviously hotly debated it would seem. So 1) I was wondering what all is “included” in what we consider the KEP? and 2) Has anyone attempted at just assuming the translation was super accurate and reconstructing what they could of the BoA with it?
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    The point of the post was to say there hasn’t been explanation for recent changes like 1990 but there has been for other changes in biblical history.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    Haven’t measured it out, though that’s actually what I’ve been doing the last little while since my comment. Some of them seemed instant revelation and others took a few years to get a response.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    That’s my point. There hasn’t been an explantion for the recent changes (meaning 1990 and more recent alterations). Yet there has seemingly been an explantion for every other ordinances or covenant change in the past dispensation.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    Well D&C 74, Moroni 8:8, and Acts 15 all point out that the Lord fulfilled, for example, the Law of Circumsision and thus altered the covenant/rite. The Apostles has some disputations about it and God resolved it through revelation (after much debate it would seem). In fact when Circumsision was introduced the Lord explained what the intent was to Abraham. When the Lord introduced the Law of Moses, He explained why to Moses. When Polygamy was formally made known to Joseph, the Lord explained why. When the Lord gave Adam a new ordinances of sacrifice, He explained why. Of course some of these took a little while before the Lord saw fit to explain the reasoning behind it, but He always did. I dont mean to come off off rude by any means, nor do I want to come off sounding like I don’t believe the changes now are inspired. The Lord works in mysterious ways, however, I still have questions.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    Obviously 😂
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I can’t think of a time where a major alteration in ordinances and covenants has not been accompanied by an explanation. Obviously He doesn’t explain everything He does, but when it comes to those two things He seems to be extremely consistent in scripture.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I remember the saying, and I dont know who said it “if symbolism has no meaning to the receiver, then is it really necessary ?” And I honestly can’t answer that effectively when it comes to temple rites. Personally I Love the rich symbols of the temple rituals, even the ones that were removed long ago. It gives me a physical puzzle, like the scriptures, to go home with and decode through prayer, pondering and researching. However to the general population, I sorta understand why things have to be altered. The trick is changing the symbols without changing the ordinance, that’s where people have issue. I always, however, give the leaders of the church the initial benefit of the doubt before I get a confirmation from the Lord, simply because i believe they are inspired! I just don’t believe they’re perfect 100% of the time (obviously haha). I however do see the other sides point of view. I know God will reveal all things to those who are righteous, but I still wish I could have been endowed in that lovely red brick store. It may not have been “arranged right” but the knowledge that must of been pouring out over the roughly 8 hours it took (at least that’s what I remember reading) must have been incredible and detailed.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I’m a little confused actually. What is the exception I’m pointing out? Haha
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I’ve never heard of a nonsensical commandment but alright haha all commandments I’ve heard and attempt to keep are rational, especially when trying to look at it with Heavens eyes. However just because it makes sense to me doesn’t mean I’m happy to keep it, or that it’s easy to keep. I highly doubt Abraham was thrilled to go try to kill his son on the mountain or perform circumcision that late in life.
  12. Me and my wife used it on Sunday and our kids (only barely 2) got it just fine. Like they knew the concepts and answered questions about following Jesus just fine. Kids are smarter then even I give them credit for most of the time.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I haven’t checked all the references so please point out if I’m wrong. However in all the instances where God has chosen to alter a covenant or ordinance (and you’re right in that He has a handful of times), He has always had a prophet/apostles give a reason as to why. Usually it seemed that whatever covenant or ordinance it was had been fulfilled, like the Law of Moses. God does update things, that is why we have prophets, however I think the reason people take issue with stuff like this is that there doesn’t seem to be any explantion. Plus the dispensation head Joseph stayed on more then one occasion that the ordinances cannot be altered. I do agree with you but the main issue is not whether God can or has changed ordinances/covenants in the past but is the current change authorized and if so, why?
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    Well there are commandments that I’m no always happy to keep! God doesn’t necessarily give commandments to make you happy, at least in this life. He gives them so that we can better become like Him even if it’s really hard... I mean I suppose all commandments are given are meant to make us happy EVENTUALLY...but perhaps not always in this world.
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