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  1. I don't think anyone should mock someone for being sent home from a mission, at least they tried. I have thought about that, I know someone that came home early from a mission with some mental issues. Not sure what happened, another person that came home early said they had a mission president they viewed as mentally or psychosocially abusive, not sure what happened. With all the challenges my son has had to his testimony and sub par interactions with other members it may be the best that he has not decided to go on a mission.
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    Hollow Earth Theory

    Forums like this are good to promote open minds. I came into the church at 20 years old, went on a mission at 21 and had a missionary from South America tell me in Spanish that the Garden of Eden was in this country. Wow, Initially I thought, what a crazy concept. We all know the location of the Tigris and Euphrates valley is in the land of Mesopotamia, on the other side of the world. Then a missionary said, they could have renamed them after the rivers on this continent, and that made sense. I met a Mormon that knew the Book of Mormon land was in the Northern United States area, instead of where most everyone thinks it was, in the Central/South America area. I thought that was crazy since, I envisioned mountains going up and mountains laid low at the death of Christ. Where are the mountains in upper state New York, or all the way over to Michigan? The Andes sound more like the event. But I suppose with God all things are possible. Maybe North America was more south and the crustal displacement at that time shifted it northward, and the mountains slid off to the side and went south and their flat area shifted up to present day Northern United states, with God all things are possible. I remember years ago a very intelligent man told me that the bones from the dinosaurs came from another planet, when all the pieces of the earth were put together those were just building blocks of an old world and they never lived on this final product planet. Sounds insane, I just imagine a molten planet that dissolves all those old bones, or at least scatters them all over the place, so not one complete skeleton could be found. but I guess with God all things are possible. Maybe that planet was the topping on the cake and it just sprinkled on after the cooking was done. Someday maybe we will find out that the men on the moon referenced are not in the flesh but may be spirits of men. Maybe the terrestrial sprits go back and forth between earth and the moon. I think there is some wisdom and learning of men that is going to get shaken up as we enter the millennium. 1,000 years to learn the way things really are and really were.
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    Hollow Earth Theory

    Has anyone seen comments from General Authorities about the Hollow Earth Theory? Is it a possibility that a family like Lehi’s was led away before the scattering of the 10 Tribes and they were relocated under the earth. The theory goes there is a sun source internal to the earth.
  4. Report post Posted just now Wow, your words brought me to tears. This is evidence of why the church is true. We truly have some of the best men and women on the planet among us, guided by the holy spirit. Thanks for the support, you are truly a minister of our lord Jesus Christ.
  5. Wow, your words brought me to tears. This is evidence of why the church is true. We truly have some of the best men and women on the planet among us, guided by the holy spirit. Thanks for the support, you are truly a minister of our lord Jesus Christ.
  6. I remember preparing for my mission 1 year after I joined the church. Everything was a spiritual life changing experience, receiving the calling, going to the MTC, and serving in the mission field. It simply breaks my heart that my sons will not enjoy similar experiences. There is a reason return missionaries talk about their missions for years to come. They can be the most spiritual concentration of experiences you can witness in your life. It just breaks my heart that my sons are rejecting that opportunity.
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    This is not a takeover...

    That's not the Sunday school response. When we are called to leadership responsibility isn't it a spiritual growth opportunity with eternal blessings? Scouts is not just scout camp, although, that is 5 vacation days used that could have been with the family. I didn't see other leaders giving up 5 vacation days from work in their callings. Let's do the math, 24 hours away from home at scout camp per day X 6 days = 144 hrs. Monthly camping events 24 Hrs. X 12 = 288 Hrs. Weekly Scout meetings = 1.5 Hrs. X 52 weeks = 78 Hrs . For just those Scout events the total is (144+288+78) = 510 Hrs. Compare that to your 9 Hour Sundays X 52 weeks = 468 Hrs. Scouting Hours are higher. Scout leaders don't get up at 3 a. m but I have been up until past 3 am packing for campouts. Also, in addition to those 510 scout Hours. there is also Patrol Leader Council meetings, planning time, training both others and self, father son campout planning, friends of scouting, monthly scout committee meetings, hours of fundraising on Saturdays, and the 5 vacation days used. Also when the Stake goes on a week outing that's another 144 Hrs. When the wind blows at 70 mph. overturning tents and filling them with rain water, getting flashed by a schizophrenic sounds pretty funny compared to a wet and damp night sleeping, and dealing with restless boys. I have seen my father die, it was one of the most spiritual experiences in my life, when we said a prayer after his passing the spirit was so strong you could cut it with a knife. The big difference with scouts is the church members left scouting years ago and have not had respect for anyone doing it the way its supposed to be run. Ward leaders tend to get a level of respect from the majority of the members.
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    This is not a takeover...

    But there will be a lack of leadership opportunities.
  9. Regor

    This is not a takeover...

    When I was on my mission there was a discussion one day about the Texas and Utah saints. The one Elder noticed when he was in Utah that many of the male members went inactive when they were released from a calling. When he was in Texas he didn't notice this as much. Is it possible that this was due to the large number of members in the Utah wards, so they could be called to an unsatisfying calling? Now that we no long have the redundancy between the Elders Quorum and the High Priest, no need for two presidencies, two sets of teachers, etc. Will this cause some men to go inactive. I know they can split the Elders Quorums to allow more leadership, but in the cases where they don't, that ward just went from many callings to few.
  10. Next son due to go on a mission is probably not going to go as well. Then I will be zero for two. See Heavenly father did do better, he had 2/3 of his children follow the plan. I have 0%. Feeling depressed tonight and an unsuccessful father. While I spent all that time with them in scouts and other parents sat on the sideline, their children go off on missions and mine stay home.
  11. My son had no pressure of going on a mission from parents or any ward members, other than what he may have placed on himself. Which would have been no more than a milli second of pressure. I guess we take comfort in not sending a boy off to a mission he doesn't want to be on and why would we want him to go on a mission if he isn't feeling it? He has our families Rodney Dangerfield legacy, no one took special interest in him from church. He just went forward with his other life interests, just like he was non-Mormon, no regrets. I personally believe its a duty to go on a mission but believe we have to choose for it to be our duty. I did, he didn't. His patriarchal blessing said he would serve a full time mission, since he didn't does that mean all the other blessings contained there in are void? Or, maybe a full time mission may be with his wife in the future, or maybe he unlike me will be made a high priest and be sealed to go on a full time mission among the nations during the post World War 3, plague, and famine survivors days. Transfigured to go among the heathen nations after the days of the gentiles. He may just be tough enough to not need any transfiguring, I pity the germ that tries to take him on. There should also be full time missions during the millennium too, right?
  12. My sons choice is in no way connected with my feelings towards him serving or no serving a mission. I have not spoken to him about it. My wife and I thought him about the importance of a mission and the time has come to serve and he is not. Period. I have not spoken to him about not going. He has replaced going with other things, profession, music pursuits, education, video game playing. I learned early that my sons character does not respond well to being forced. If he is asked to do anything he goes into a full out rage. I have a hole in our dry wall to prove it.
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    This is not a takeover...

    Your comments are inspirational. My son and I are companions and we need to get out and see a guy that's inactive. Good reminder. I think laziness is the worst enemy in the church, is know it is for me. I remember to check on my ministering families that I see at church. I just need to get off my but and call the one that I have never seen. Thanks.
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    This is not a takeover...

    Not our model. So far I know of two Wards in the stake having the new Elders Quorum President called. So far both new Elders Quorum Presidents are High Priests.