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  1. esodije

    Status of Discovery in Denson Lawsuit

    So the BYU police concluded that the sister missionary whom Bishop said he asked to bare her breasts was Denson? Not only do you have to take Bishop’s statement at face value, but you have to look past the fact that Denson denied being the sister missionary who supposedly received that request. (You’ll recall that she told Bishop, in the December 2017 recording, that she had no chest to speak of at age 21.) I don’t think the BYU police report is any more conclusive than the confessions Bishop made directly to Denson.
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    Status of Discovery in Denson Lawsuit

    I don’t think this is the case, as any claim based on what the church knew or didn’t know before the alleged MTC attack would be time-barred. As I read the court’s ruling on the defendants’ motion to dismiss, the only surviving count was the convoluted one about the church’s supposed ongoing fraud concerning an investigation into Bishop’s actions and subsequent disciplinary proceedings. That suggests to me that the only events at issue, as far as the church’s potential liability is concerned, date to 2010 and thereafter. And that will be an extremely difficult case to prove (and to extrapolate damages from), especially since the standard of proof in fraud cases is “clear and convincing evidence,” not “preponderance of the evidence.”
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    Status of Discovery in Denson Lawsuit

    In case you haven’t noticed, it doesn’t take much digging these days to get into someone’s dirty laundry, what with online “services” like MyLife and others. I strongly suspect the “dirt” the church had on Denson came exclusively from the same kind of search that either you or I could pay a few dollars for. It’s axiomatic in litigation that a plaintiff throws open his/her life to close examination; in that light, I’d say the church has shown a lot of restraint so far in this matter, probably for PR reasons.
  4. esodije

    Status of Discovery in Denson Lawsuit

    I guess I’m not ready to concede that the assault actually happened, despite Bishop’s having “confessed” to being a perv of sorts. I’ve had too many interactions with delusional and/or senile people not to take everything with a grain of salt; moreover, having gone through the MTC a few years before the alleged events (and knowing the layout and routine), I still believe Denson’s story to be quite implausible. I said to myself when the December 2017 audio surfaced that the real proof would lie in there being a succession of accusers (a la Bill Cosby) or solid corroborating evidence. I guess there are one or two other accusers about whom little has come out, and there are a few points of corroboration (Denson apparently knew details about Bishop’s sexual proclivities; her MTC teacher remembered her being called out of class, though not by whom; and an ex-MTC employee stated that the downstairs room existed, at least at some point in time after Bishop was MTC president); however, that’s pretty thin gruel.
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    Status of Discovery in Denson Lawsuit

    It’s been a long time since I sat through one of Dr. John’s interviews, but this one seems particularly pointless. The local church leaders won’t physically ban a doty 85-year-old alleged sexual abuser from attending church meetings? And they even let him serve in a non-calling like the Sunday School presidency? The horror!
  6. Does anyone know if the church has done any discovery in the McKenna Denson “MTC rape” lawsuit? I read sometime back that Denson’s lawyers had taken Joseph Bishop’s deposition, although seemingly the only item of interest to come out of it was that Bishop supposedly had “resigned” his church membership. If I were repping the church, I’d want to depose Denson’s ex-husband, who supposedly accompanied Denson to her alleged meeting with Carlos Asay in 1987 (and who himself is the object of Denson’s allegations that he was a serial adulterer and a child-support deadbeat); her MTC missionary companion(s), who presumably could testify about Denson’s being called out of class and wandering the MTC “companionless”; and her MTC branch president (assuming he’s still alive), who presumably would have constituted the first level of any counseling Denson might have received in the MTC. (I’d also want to subpoena copies of her medical records, but that almost goes without saying.) I don’t have a personal stake in the case, aside from having known one of Bishop’s sons in the mission field in 1979-80; however, if Bishop truly was so depraved that he would sexually assault a sister missionary—and in the MTC of all places—I would agree that the church bears at least some responsibility for it.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I did an endowment session today. I won’t mention any particulars, but the changes are definitely the biggest modification to the ceremony since 1990. It seems the biggest drivers were, first, to put women more on par with men in terms of their standing before God, and, second, to shorten the ceremony somewhat. I feel confident that new videos will be made—it seems like a total regression to be watching a filmstrip.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    Maybe I’m just projecting, since receiving sisters at the veil and acting as a sealing proxy with a woman not my wife are the two things that most make me feel uncomfortable.
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    Rumors of Changes to Temple Worship

    I wonder if a patron will be able to do multiple names in a single session, simply by making separate covenants, then doing multiple veil ceremonies at the end. A lot of the changes in the last three decades seem to have been intended to reduce patron embarrassment or discomfort. At this point, the two most uncomfortable practices still extant are: (1) brother ordinance workers “receiving” sister patrons at the veil; and (2) one’s acting as a sealing proxy with a member of the opposite gender who isn’t one’s spouse. The latter, if it were changed, would exclude singles, and I can’t see that happening. However, the delegation of priesthood authority to sister ordinance workers to allow them to receive sister patrons at the veil doesn’t seem outrageous to me.
  10. No problem. All the people who were certain that the BSA would be revitalized by the departure of the LDS church (and other homophobes) are sure to step into the funding breach.
  11. I’ve always said that the foundational question is whether or not you believe the church is all it claims to be. If you don’t, then what is there to reform? And if you do, what business do you think the rank-and-file have trying to dictate policy, doctrine, or even the presentation of church history to the GAs? A huge amount of intellectual dishonesty lies in the conceit that you, as a church member, care so much about the institution that you think it right to promote some kind of organic reform effort...for its own good. Paraphrasing William F. Buckley, I’d sooner entrust the highest levels of church administration to the 400-or-so missionaries who will report next week at the Provo MTC than to the dissident “Mormon intellectual” community.
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    Wear it with pride...

    Truly, it is amazing what you can find on AliExpress.
  13. esodije

    Wear it with pride...

    Son, you’re going to set me to barking If you don’t stop wearing that hot-rod CTR ring
  14. esodije

    Denson's Lawsuit Dismissed by Federal Judge

    The post-op pain meds might have aggravated the effects of Bishop’s dementia, but they aren’t likely to have been the cause of them.
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    Denson's Lawsuit Dismissed by Federal Judge

    Some people seem to think the BYU police report is a smoking gun. I don’t get it: one thing we do know Bishop told the BYU police was that he asked Denson at some point to bare her breasts to him. Denson herself has said repeatedly that she wasn’t that person, and that she had no chest to speak of at age 21. If Bishop is still confusing Denson with someone else, how can anything he says be regarded as conclusive? To me, there is no greater evidence of the extent of his dementia than that he continued to run his mouth to Denson in December 2017, even after her false pretenses in procuring the interview became clear. What clear-thinking person do any of you know who would have done that?
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