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  1. SouthernMo

    An Apology to Gay Latter-day Saints

    Why don’t we just try our best to call people by the labels they want to be called, and if we inadvertently call them by a label they don’t want to be called, then quickly apologize and change? If Mormons don’t want to be called Mormons, don’t do it. If someone doesn’t want to be labeled with ‘same sex attraction’ don’t do it.
  2. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    So your position is that for years, the church has tried to get us to refer to the church properly. No change there. But, that there is a change in that in the past, we have been encouraged to call members Mormons, but that is now changing? Seems like a slim difference, but I want to make sure I understand your belief/understanding correctly.
  3. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    Right, but it's inconsistent now, but you've told us that members have been asked for a long time NOT to refer to ourselves as Mormons. This is just false. https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/style-guide
  4. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    Not sure I see your point here. Doesn't the style guide also ask that people no longer call members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Mormons? (Bullet Point 4)
  5. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    Got it. So you see that we can still call ourselves Mormons as a part of the "I'm a Mormon" campaign, we just don't want to be called Mormons because that's not the name of the church?
  6. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    The “I’m a Mormon” campaign stands in direct contradiction to your claim here. They spent millions encouraging us to call ourselves Mormons on social media.
  7. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    Even this idea of a course correction seems odd. Is President Nelson conceding that President Monson was off-base to approve/launch the I’m a Mormon campaign? Did President Monson need some course correction?
  8. SouthernMo

    Is there room?

    I think so. Christ fasted alone in the wilderness for 40 days. So we have some precedent for contemplation in solitude.
  9. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    From the Style Guide — The Name of the Church: The term "Mormonism" is inaccurate and should not be used. When describing the combination of doctrine, culture and lifestyle unique to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the term "the restored gospel of Jesus Christ" is accurate and preferred. I have a hard time seeing honest journalists with an understanding of the English language to do this consistently because it would come across so biased in the Christian faiths. For example, in an article about baptism for the dead, would the journalist call it a doctrine of Mormonism, or a doctrine of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ? He would seem to be weighing in on a matter of faith by utilizing the latter phrasing. @Scott Lloyd Journalist question: How would you handle this? Would a skilled journalist refer to another faith by the name it wants to be called if it created confusion or conveyed bias in the report?
  10. Can revelation and outside force co-exist? Some could say that the Word of Wisdom came from pressure from Emma Smith before Joseph Smith received that revelation?
  11. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    This is the headline of my Yahoo News feed right now. Made me cringe. The headline conveys a petty plea. I'm sure this is not the narrative that President Nelson wants, but messaging is very hard to control.
  12. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    Good point. So legally, what are members of the church? What could I say that has legal standing about my relationship with the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
  13. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    I wonder if President Nelson will re-incorporate and rename the church's legal organization to support this revelation he's received? Today, the church organization is known as the "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." If we're going to be accurate and consistent, would President Nelson mind if we referred to ourselves as "members of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?"
  14. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    I don't mean to engage in any 'gotcha' questioning. Sometimes my opinions aren't well thought out, either. I just try to fully understand others' thoughts because it helps shape mine (for the better) - especially from people like you. You and I have a very different approach to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. How naive would I be if I thought I was 'right' and you were 'wrong' in our approaches? I think our church needs thoughts/perspectives/and approaches of all kinds to function best. I would not be happy in our church if everyone thought like I do. So, even though I see you annoy some people on here with what seems to be a more traditionalist/conservative/orthodox/TBM/(whatever you want to call it) perspective - please keep at it. You force us on the other end of the spectrum to rethink our assumptions IF we consider your ideas seriously, and don't write them off as 'Lloydisms.' I just hope that from time to time, you'll consider our ideas, too.
  15. SouthernMo

    The Name of the Church

    I have a hard time taking your opinions seriously when they aren't well thought out. I come here to learn from good ideas. I was hoping to get some from you.