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  1. Wesley P Walters had a look at Nibley's paper and offered a few comments on his arguments.. Geee I will have to break the file up. It was 7 typed pages
  2. One of the arguments Nibley makes is the ceasing of missionary work in the early church. See his https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/passing-church-forty-variations-unpopular-theme Michael Green in his Evangelism in the Early Church gives a different picture.
  3. Reminds me of that statement in a few good men "You can't handle the truth" I see this with Pentecostals "feelings" trump facts. The feeling of "community" means more than the truth. Trumps behavior does not change their feelings about his followers.Joseph Smiths numerous "wives" is explained away. Brigham Young had no responsibility for the MMM. Why did it take so long to bring Lee to justice? Trump's followers are also referred to as a "cult"
  4. Smith misunderstood the words "God repented" because he knew no Hebrew. Throughout the in you find evidence he was an amateur with no particular inspiration from God. The Richard Howard book shows instances that he must have got tired of the job like he does with his interpretations in Fac 2 in the BOA. His creative juices were drying up.
  5. When I read Richard Howard's Restoration Scriptures in the section dealing with the IV some sections he pronounced as "correct" Interesting is Jonah Ch 3. Jonah 3:9-10 King James Version (KJV) 9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3:9-10 New International Version (NIV) 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.” 10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened. IV 3:9-10 9 Who can tell if we will repent and turn unto God but he will turn away from us his fierce anger that we perish not 10 and God saw their works that they turned from their evil way and repented and God turned away the evil that he said he would bring upon them Smith had not yet learned Hebrew. God changed his mind. Jonah 3:9-10 New English Translation (NET Bible) 9 Who knows? Perhaps God might be willing to change his mind and relent and turn from his fierce anger so that we might not die.” 10 When God saw their actions—they turned from their evil way of living!—God relented concerning the judgment he had threatened them with and he did not destroy them.
  6. There is no manuscript evidence for his changes on Matthew to two angels sitting on the rock. He was trying to harmonize several accounts that were contradictory.
  7. Yes i was looking at the temptation and the order of the temptations is not the same.
  8. Who was listening to the exchange between Jesus and the "bandits"?
  9. I watched a debate between Bart Ehrman and Craig Evans on youtube. Also one with Dr James White. They were discussing the integrity of the gospel accounts. One issue which they mention are the resurrection accounts where Matthew's account is decidedly different to those in the other three gospels. C S Lewis as a Christian apologist has argued that the accounts though they might contain errors are pretty close to the facts" In the Inspired Version instead of one angel sitting on the rock after it is rolled away there are TWO angels. In Mark's gospel they arrive and the stone is already rolled away with TWO angels sitting on the rock Nothing about going inside and encountering a "young man". In Luke's account (24) the two men are inside whereas in the IV they are perhaps outside? Another interesting issue is the interaction between Jesus and the two thieves. In the KJV Matt 27 " The thieves also which were crucified with him cast the same in his teeth" In the IV Smith adds details found in Luke 23:39-43.Nothing in Mark 15 (KJV) but IV adds "And one of them who was crucified with him reviled him also saying If thou art the Christ save thyself and us" There is nothing in John's gospel about the thieves talking to Jesus and nothing in the IV. I can understand how Ehrman after so much intense study with Bruce Metzger arrive at more skeptical beliefs about the accuracy of the Bible accounts. ;;
  10. I Corinthios 6:9-10 Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE) 9 An nescitis quia iniqui regnum Dei non possidebunt? Nolite errare: neque fornicarii, neque idolis servientes, neque adulteri,
  11. Here is an interesting summary of all sides of the debate on Sodom and yada. https://www.sats.edu.za/userfiles/Rogers, BTh Thesis, 2011 Final.pdf
  12. I read some where they have a good healthcare system and make their own vaccines. That would upset BigPharma
  13. I have been busy yesterday turning up at my grandsons daycare center for grandparent day and rather sore sitting on those little chairs so will continue to read the discussion.
  14. I have been sharing this discussion with Dr Gnuse which he says in an email "What a fun site. I read through it quickly, but I will have to come back to it later. I sure wanted to jump in on the discussion about the flood, since I teach a course on the Bible and Creation and do a history of the Scientific Creationist movement in order to debunk it." I hope he does eventually make an appearance.. Should be interesting.
  15. I don't accept the historicity of the Pentateuch (Finkelstein Dever & Peter Enns). so this just some intellectual fun I have with fundamentalist Christians who attack LGBTT rights and sometimes get caught in a gay bar.
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