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  1. I thought they took away the edit to prevent changing the content after getting a few reps on the board. I probably should have saved that one for Conspiracy Friday.
  2. New Revelations and the Future

    Deleted. Could be misunderstood.
  3. New Revelations and the Future

    It appears to be a "Line upon line, precept by precept" process, not happening all at once. I agree with Maidservant's point. Return and report is an important management training principle. It should be like training wheels on a bicycle. At some point, when organization and work ethic are proven, the training wheels can come off. Otherwise, the administrators can become overwhelmed, neglecting the "Best" duties of building successful family relationships, which is where our primary energy should be invested. For decades, the Church has been preaching "Reduce and Simplify." But that has been in conflict with the idea of magnifying our callings. The new revelation encourages us to relax, and follow the Spirit. Take Home Teaching, for example: The idea "Where performance is measured, performance improves" was the driving force behind it. Doing our visits the last week of the month, giving the First Presidency message rather than what they needed or wanted seemed to me like a legalistic exercise. The style of monthly reporting reinforced the legalism, in my opinion. It seemed to be more policy and (micro) management driven. Yes, we tried to extend love within those parameters. But the reporting belied a works rather than love driven process. This first Sunday under the new revelation was a definite sea change experience for me. While our Church members have always been loving, my perception was that there was a certain restraint caused by the idea "My duty will be complete when I home teach you IN YOUR HOME. Let's see when we can coordinate our calendars." Today, there was more reaching out, visiting in the halls, a feeling of the unrestrained love of Christ flowing through the Church. Many years ago, the Church used to keep track of Temple attendance. Then we were directed not to track it any longer. The activity may have gone down. But the spiritual impact of attending out of love and desire rather than pride and vanity encouraged by monitoring, made a difference to me. I want to be clear that I'm not complaining about the old way. The Church was true then, and it's true now. I just feel we are moving to a truly love of Christ and our fellow beings centered paradigm rather than works centered. Yes, let the interaction between the Holy Ghost and the "fleshy tables of the heart" guide our actions. By so doing, I believe His yoke will be easy, and His burden light.
  4. I get the faith to call down the power of Heaven when I need it. I get peace of mind. I get to prove the promise is real. Tithing is a small price to pay for faith. It may be hard to understand logically, and it may not seem altruistic. God made promises to those who obey this law. Who am I to reject those blessings? Many of us will affirm there is nothing a person could do to keep us from paying our tithing. If someone wants to see a miracle in their life, applying Malachi 3:10-11 is a good place to start. If they want to see a further miracle, pay a generous fast offering. Read and apply Isaiah 58:5-12. Both promises are clearly explained, as are the actions to obtain proof they are real. I was a tithe payer before I was a Christian, and experienced the promised blessings. Tithing was instrumental to my obtaining faith in God.
  5. Several studies are referred to at WebMD on this subject. I know one cancer survivor, and one RA survivor gaining relief with creams. I don't believe it affects their TR status. My aunt died at age 33 of RA. She may have benefitted from this, had it been available. I think it's worth discussing. I understand the arguments against recreational use, and agree with many or most. Still, I wouldn't judge those who do use it to cope with their pain.
  6. Papa, thanks for your comments here, particularly with regard to making mistakes, giving offense, saying things we later regret, etc. I also sympathize with the dementia issue. Isn't Mormon Dialogue great? As a relative newcomer, I believe most on this board have the same attitude as you, and think the best of people. They give us a chance to practice and improve our communication skills. It is actually mentally freeing to be able to consider the diverse opinions of the people here. It's an opportunity to learn and practice charity. Sometimes I don't do too well with it and in my knee jerk reactions offend even myself. I don't like it when that happens. But hey, it happens. You know, Papa, on that forgiving ourselves topic, the other day I was thinking about the Golden Rule-- "Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you." That's like a math equation. It equals doing unto ourselves as we do unto others. I can tell you are very gentle with others. It's not so easy to be equally gentle with ourselves, is it? But I believe it's important. Such "self care" gives us ability to learn, understand and be an influence for good rather than disabled by our own failings, misperceptions or fears. Some of my opinions have even changed, which is surprising to me. I find myself moderating over time. Part of our education here is to learn how to think. I'm finding here, that includes learning how to talk about topics that were once taboo. I think we can talk about just about anything, if we are careful and thoughtful. Now, on the dementia issue, it runs in my family on my Mother's side. When my memory was about two years into failing, I researched and tried a few supplements. (Sounds like you may be further down that road than me.) I found one natural supplement that works for me. It is also found in prescription medication for dementia. It is called "Huperzine A." I take it once every two or three days, depending on how I am feeling. I took it every day for awhile (one tablet,) but found more is not always better. Now, for me, once every two or three days works best. It has made a real difference with names and other issues where memories were falling off the plate all the time. Much better over the past two or three years. It may not be the thing for you if you are under a doctor's care. You may already be taking it in your medication. But maybe it would be good for someone else here. I get mine on Amazon or a healthfood store. Thanks again for your post, Papa. As usual, very edifying. Happy Easter to you and yours. Meerkat
  7. Prohibition, Yea or Nay

    Thank you Samuel. If I could give you a rep for that comment, I would. Prayer seems to be one of the best things for us and for them. That, and "suffering long with kindness.." I really need to thank God that we are the beneficiaries of what they are going through. We are learning lessons that I don't know if we could have learned in any other way-- important lessons for us. Do I wish they didn't have to suffer through this? Of course. I hope they are getting as much out of the experience as we are. I hope it works out for the best for all of us. That's what I am couning on.
  8. Where did the Book of Mormon come from?

    I'm not the researcher, or as sophisticated or deep as many on this thread. I read your stuff and feel kind of like a simpleton. This is where I come down on this subject: This morning, we studied Alma 42. My wife and I had a wonderful discussion of much of it. I was struck by the whole thing. Verses 23 through 31, and 29 and 30 were particularly meaningful to me. I read these things and frequently exclaim in my thoughts, heart and voice "Praise God for the young Prophet, Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon." I often feel that every page should have in bold letters at the top and bottom: "Joseph Smith was truly a prophet, called by God to proclaim Christ." That's where the The Book of Mormon came from. Financing it's publication, sending out the missionaries without purse or script, and the powerful conversions that resulted were miraculous to me. Building the Kirtland Temple, designing Nauvoo, building Zion. The conversion of the early Saints, their willingness to sacrifice; my conversion, my wonderful life. The Church today-- I am convinced by all of it. These discussions are interesting and helpful. For me, it all strengthens my testimony. Nothing detracts. In fairness, I can see how it appears to do the same for those on each side of this discussion.
  9. Prohibition, Yea or Nay

    I'm not sure if that is accurate. Four years into our adventure with two porn addicted sons, years of estrangement imposed by them, I had a chance to have a heart to heart with one of them. He said "When I came to you and asked if you had ever struggled with difficult things, you told me Christ had forgiven your sins, whatever they were. The slate was clean. They were gone and you saw no need to discuss them." My wife and I joined the Church together. Jesus came into our lives in a deeply personal and powerful way. We loved our lives in the Church. We never looked back. I never told them my life had hit a low point. In desperation, I called out to God. He came into my life and forgave me, lifting my depression and giving me a new life. In other words, I wasn't the perfect person I tried to portray to my children all those years. I was a sinner, and Jesus changed everything for me. Had I explained that to them earlier, more openly and direct than my feeble metaphors, my boys may have found the hope they are still seeking. They did let me know they didn't feel they could come to me because I wouldn't understand. That was a mistake on my part. Or maybe it was an excuse on their part. I tend to believe them when they tell me their reality was that our perfectionism and hyper religiosity contributed to their addictions. We weren't down to earth enough and forthcoming to their questions. Yes, I have found that since we have been open and reasonably transparent with them, we are communicating more and they are expressing desires to change for the better. We shall see. Hope springs eternal, and prayers appear to be slowly bringing positive results. My point on this thread is the problem is pervasive. People are unable or unwilling to accept help that is available, or get past their pride and open up. We need legislative help to slow the spread of it. But for us on this thread, there is much we can do to improve relationships. That's my two cents.
  10. Prohibition, Yea or Nay

    That is a great list, Bro. Gui. For active members of the Church, you may find a welcome audience for those suggestions. I think if the indiuvidual is motivated, they will find ways around those safeguards. One of my addicted loved ones committed to not viewing. I allowed him to have a computer in his room for schoolwork, as long as it wasn't connected to the internet. While we were gone, he ran a hidden cable through the attic into his closet to hardwire his computer. We didn't discover it until two years after he moved out. So I would add two things to your list, if it were me: If you only have time or energy to apply two or three suggestions, pray for guidance to the ones with the best chance of helping. Secondly, find a way to allow for some agency. The harder we acted to protect them, the more they ran to it. The more creative they became in their dishonesty. Our strict approach didn't work very well.
  11. Prohibition, Yea or Nay

    I loved your post, and agree with the whole thing. And thanks for the blessing. I don't believe it's realistic to prohibit pornography. But it is realistic to restrict it somewhat. Anything to slow it down. The problem I have with focusing on taking care of the addict and therapy / 12 step for the families is that probably 90 percent or more of affected families are too embarrassed or proud to participate in the help available. So they suffer in silence, without the tools to help themselves and certainly unable to help their loved ones, piling shame upon shame. Thus the problem outruns the cure. Maybe you mentioned a solution and I misssed it. I've been off the site for awhile. I'll look back through it. Your solution in the most recent post appears highly individualized, and requires extraordinary humility to work-- a real challenge for many addicts.
  12. Prohibition, Yea or Nay

    Samuel the Lamanite, I appreciate your persistence. There is research to back up your feelings, just as there is opposing research. It isn't settled science. Pogi may be right regarding toxic shame and possibly hyper religiosity contributing to addiction-like behavior. But there may be more to it than poor self image, or shame. This disclaimer at the end of the Psychology Today article, "Your Brain on Porn - It's NOT Addictive," that Pogi referred to illustrates a potential problem with his reasoning: "*Note - this article was previously published in March 2013, prior to the formal publication of the research. It was removed due to controversy related to another PT blogger. As the research article is now formally available, this blog article is being republished." Apparently they will publish anything as long as the research article is formally available. Hence, articles on all sides. There is ample conflicting research on all sides of this issue. Families that are impacted by it know how damaging it IS to the habitual viewer (whether addicted or shamed,) and to the family who loves them, until they have been treated so poorly they draw a circle that shuts the addict out, until they get help. I shared my testimony on this thread how our family was devastated. Here is one response to Pogi's PT article that corresponds with our family experience. (I put this in the category of "Out of the mouth of two or more witnesses."): "...I have a husband who is addicted to porn; admitted it to me years ago. He has tried to stop time after time but just can't seem to do it. He told me he has been at it since he was 16 years old. I wouldn't have gotten that much out of him about it had I not found the stash of porn hidden in the basement. Now, he's on the computer. HIS OWN. So he never brings it home anymore. It's horrible. And there are so many kinds of porn, I had no idea. For any idiot to say it is not an addiction is like saying people who can't stop snorting cocaine is not an addict!" That is also the reality I have seen with two loved ones and their spouses and several others in family support and therapy. Pogi, and those good people who share his opinion, refer to their own experience and professional articles such as those in PT "Your Brain on Porn-- it's NOT addictive." Our therapist has an insurance code that pays for pornography and sex addiction. She doubts they would pay, if there was evidence that would allow them not to pay. My objection to Pogi's argument is that it focuses on giving sympathy and TLC to the habitual viewer (I say habitual viewer because some don't like the term addict,) but ignores the plight of the raped, the objectified, the deceived spouses, the single parents, the children without fathers in the home, the estranged families and friends and other collateral damage that is sweeping the internet and all our communities like the plague. What about THEM??? I believe those numbers are much higher than the habitual viewers. Do you think states, like Utah, that are trying to legislate against pornography as a public health and safety issue are doing so in a vacuum? Or do they have constituents who are demanding action because their families are being destroyed. Here is a list of states that have taken such action so far: Arkansas, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and Virginia. And why is the Church doing all it can do in general conference, the Ensign, websites and family support groups to stem the tidal wave of pornography attacking our members? My point is Pornography is not just damaging to the addict. The greater damage is to the young women brought into it, the pimps and producers, the destroyed families, the unrealistic expectations it creates in the minds of the viewers, etc., in my opinion. So YES, let us train families who are not so embarrassed that they won't attend family support-- train them to love the addict, and how to talk with them, support them, avoid shaming language or behavior, extend the love of Christ that is just waiting and wanting to be shared by all. AND get politically involved to encourage our legislatures to push back the darkness.
  13. Yes, due process is very important. There's a lot to be said for a speedy trial. I'm sure some training will be coming down the pike.
  14. How about profits from their businesses and investments?
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