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  1. Some LDS scholars like to agree with Anti-Mormons

    I actually read and was considering your original comment before it was modified. Would have preferred to discuss it.
  2. Some LDS scholars like to agree with Anti-Mormons

    Which then raises the question, if we endorse or support a valid teaching of a person or people who teach things contrary to the church, is one's recommend thereby in jeopardy? Contents may settle during shipment....your local results may vary. And if so, is it worth the cost? Count it up, and decide each person for themselves.
  3. Some LDS scholars like to agree with Anti-Mormons

  4. Some LDS scholars like to agree with Anti-Mormons

  5. Some LDS scholars like to agree with Anti-Mormons

    Quick to judgment or quick to seek agreement? Is critical or noncritical the preferred stance? One way to end controversy in any discussion is to simply acknowledge that one's adversary has a valid point. (You for example, have a valid concern: Who's on the Lord's side who?) That acknowledgement of another person's valid point/concern is sometimes sufficient to give us insight into their broader concern/complaint, allowing us to gently transform the point of their sword into the edge of a plowshare....for the advancement of the kingdom. A peaceful way to defuse, disarm, resolve, and heal the genuine concerns/hurts of those who once walked among us. Those who we may have inadvertently harmed. Last I checked, agreeing with one's adversary quickly is something we're counseled to do... Fair 'nuf?
  6. Interesting changes for 3rd hour block in 2018

    ...and young men/women, and children....if we hold millennial promises to have sway now. I defer to them, not just because they might (or might not) feel *they need* a chance, but because *we need* to tune an ear to what's in their hearts. (At least I do.) My preference: women and children first...or children and women first. If needed, after being improved by what they offer, I'll gladly step forward to be among those who take up the rear.
  7. Interesting changes for 3rd hour block in 2018

    ? What is deemed Mormonspeak?
  8. 1. Let me be more clear about the widow and any son [or daughter] she might have had...that was a secondary response to the question of whether the "secret combination" concern was a unique concern to the early 1800's surrounding a certain freemason, in which context I then alluded to the relevance phrase. FM has a very good article. 2. While on the topic of widows and a brief pivot to the NT injunction of visiting widows and the fatherless, again in the context of the freemasonry, I had read long ago that the Smiths had served the mourning widow's family back in NY in the 1820s. If that timeline is accurate, or even off by a decade, the kindness extended was real. When the Civil War foretold by him eventually broke out, she promptly packed her things, relocated to the South, and blazed a path of compassion into the darkness: http://www.setonmagazine.com/catholic/spirituality/the-battlefield-angels-of-the-civil-war-our-surprising-history-lesson
  9. Book of my Bosom of Abraham

    Hmmm. Brings me back to my earlier comment. I appreciate the work and commitment that scholars put into their fields. Genuinely. Meanwhile, eye, hand, foot. I'm really hoping people in and out of the church continue to believe their contribution to any specific facet of a complex issue is direly needed. And that one doesn't need to first become an expert in every facet of a topic before wading in and making a difference. It's often the distilled pedestrian take on things, plainness, simplicity, that a typical viewer can readily pick up the baton and run with. That said, such distilled simplicity sometimes traces back to some scholar's hard work. We simply need each other's contribution.
  10. The New Face of Mormon Racism

    Fear is the opposite motivation I had in mind...as you likely know.
  11. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=secret+combination&year_start=1700&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Csecret combination%3B%2Cc0 Apparently. Generations before. That the phrase saw a big spike during Joseph's lifetime is simply due to an event that provides fodder for those who want to ruminate on that. Despite what anyone might say about him on that minor matter, Joseph was at least the one who visited that man's widow...*and likely her son*...if she had one. Religion pure...
  12. Attended a presentation by the author on the topic earlier this year. Initial thoughts: http://candlestickstudio.com/translationCommittee.html
  13. Singing Songs and sung and stuff

    There's a fine (but easily-maintained) balance between having different views and having all things in common. One *can* offer to share, without insisting that others accept what is offered, and without taking offense if they decline, or even if they try and it doesn't suit their tastes. Tree of life - variety - healing of nations. A buffet, where I don't make a fuss if you've filled your plate a bit differently than me. (Now where's that short video of the food fight?) In the essentials unity. In the non-essentials liberty. In all things charity.
  14. Book of my Bosom of Abraham

    With due respect Hugh, Balderdash. With such a heavily-imposed, hamster wheel, one would need to study (and keep pace) with such shifting things almost to the exclusion of every other topic/duty, to *ever* be deemed properly trained to minister in that part of the vineyard. Where i see the rubber hitting the road. A soccer mom who comes across helpful insight on Abraham while driving to a game is as highly qualified to contribute as someone with 11.5 advanced degrees. If ye have the desire...called. Maidservant's comments were spot on what *I* needed today...as were yours. And if anyone were to even *suggest* that such contributions aren't "serious", I would wanna puke. In a church that moves forward *through lay ministry,* if the contribution of laypeople somehow isn't deemed sufficient, we're absolutely kidding ourselves. We lift where we happen to stand. Not where someone at a rostrum insists that we must first journey a second (thousand) miles before even thinking we're qualified *to* stand. I *very* rarely get angry, but this is the precise kinda thing in our culture that gets my knickers in a tightly-wound knot. Gordian even. The solution is to simply let the spirit speak. And to stop setting/accepting manmade arbitrary stakes that people must supposedly reach before they *can* contribute. /rant In times when I am guilty of doing that, any of you have Bunny-FooFoo permission to briefly scoop me up and bop me on the head. (But please be kind.) Could be true of any facet of scripture, or even any secular self-improvement choice. Which makes it less an issue of what checklist *someone else* says we should read/study/learn, and more an issue of what God wishes us to read/study/learn for our daily bread that day.
  15. The New Face of Mormon Racism

    Being that I believe Vikings descend from Nephites [as do many non-Europeans], and that Nephites served as centurions [and as warriors nowhere near the Atlantic], my concern is of a slightly different flavor. I *do* wish to encourage a variety of art that more of mankind can relate to. Earlier this year, I strolled through the BYU Art Museum a couple of times. They have a collection of scripture-themed art on the main floor from a broad array of cultures, depicting precisely what you've requested. Ditto downstairs with secular art. If either collection is still there... Some say Jesus was brown, black, or some other color. Which is part of the problem with graven images....*and* with creating God in one's own image. Because whatever cultural flavor one draws from the palette to appeal to *one* worldview, it may offend a neighbor. Perhaps it's past time we actually stopped creating such images...