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  1. It was a challenge in our quorum meeting today as well. High priests sat on one side of the room, and elders on the other. It's still not clear how older Elders become high priests? By calling obviously, but isn't it wild that the word Elder literally means "seasoned, mature, old male of experience" Strongs 4245 presbýteros from James5:14, when the female comparative in the plural is presbyteras 1Tim5:2. My concern is over the stratification of priesthood rank in the Celestial kingdom. Proxy ordinations are only to the office of elder not high priest. Also confusing is with the second anointing to receive the fulness of the priesthood, the person is ordained a king and a priest unto the Most High God, to rule and reign in the house of Israel forever. In other words the high in high priest is gone, priest without the high is the highest ordination until receiving godhood? The endowment reiterates these offices yet ignores ordination to explicit office of priestess for women when reading Exodus40 in the initiatory? confusing. Looks to me that the office of high priest is going to go the way of the old seventies. I'm also asking how priesthood re-organization of this kind proceeds with no changes or additions to sections in the doctrine and covenants? The old sections on organization of the priesthood 20, 84, 107 etc were received before the revelation concerning the endowment and organization of the quorum of the anointed.
  2. The next six months final sunday topic?

    President Monson leaves priesthood meeting to go minister: (They Will Come, April 1997) "When I served as a bishop, I noted one Sunday morning that one of our priests was missing from priesthood meeting. I left the quorum in the care of the adviser and visited Richard’s home. His mother said he was working at the West Temple Garage. I drove to the garage in search of Richard and looked everywhere, but I could not find him. Suddenly I had the inspiration to gaze down into the old-fashioned grease pit situated at the side of the station. From the darkness I could see two shining eyes. Then I heard Richard say, “You found me, Bishop! I’ll come up.” After that he rarely missed a priesthood meeting."
  3. The next six months final sunday topic?

    “Teach me all that I must know” ? nah - we're past that now. Learning about ministering as Jesus did will be a great sacrament meeting talk though. I'm interested in eliminating the 3rd hour meeting and turning it into a 1/month evening event with all the Melchizedek priesthood. priesthood opening exercises so tough to get through.
  4. The next six months final sunday topic?

    Spending a third hour talking about ministering is worthless, best to leave church and go out and visit someone.
  5. "idle tales" men disbelieving women

    Perhaps one of the reasons they did not believe the women was because they financially supported the jesus ministry (luke8:1-3) and had investor bias or because Jesus had previously cast out 7 devils from Mary Magdalene (mark16:9) - maybe they worried a couple devils had returned.
  6. Yeah, I can't imagine developing a lineage/DNA haplotype doctrine. "New instructions for patriarchal blessing candidates: 1) swab your mouth and send sample to ancestry.com 2) visit with geneticist and discuss family genealogy results 3) submit DNA/family group sheet report via MLS to patriarch, 4) read "All Abraham's Children" by Armand Mauss and "Seven daughters of Eve" by bryan skykes.
  7. New official interview policy

    When reading the documents it still looks like young men interviewing for mission at 18 years old are adults and must interview alone as well as older men. The section on pg2, that "Leaders should avoid all circumstances that could be misunderstood (see Handbook 1, 7.4)." has no additional detail on what this means. I looked up HB1 7.4 and it repeats the same thing and adds no clarification to what questions can be asked. Still can drive a truck through this and missionary candidates will be asked all kings of things. In the new standard set of missionary questions it still is not specific on what the bishop can or cannot ask about. For example question3. "What does it mean to you to repent? Do you feel that you have fully repented of past transgressions?" The missionary candidate could then ask - what transgressions do I need to confess to you? This is where there is no guidance in the HB1 other than if it's on your mind then you should probably confess it. Question5. "Full-time missionary service requires living gospel standards. What do you understand about the following standards? a. The law of chastity In reference to the law of chastity, have you always lived in accordance with what has been discussed? If not, how long ago did the transgression(s) occur? What have you done to repent? " This pulls the interviewer into long lists of serious transgressions which as of today require confession HB1 sec 4.5.2 on Worthiness lists the following, "Repentance of Serious transgressions, "A person who has been guilty of adultery, fornication, heavy petting (sexually stimulating caressing and touching), homosexual activity (?), other sexual perversions (? ? ?), serious violation of civil law, or other serious transgressions (? ? ?) must repent before he or she may be recommended for missionary service. A prospective missionary must also overcome any addictions before being considered for missionary service." There's the line "any addictions" which again pulls the untrained interviewer into murky waters, which then leads to a section on confession and refraining from sin which could mean arbitrary abstinence guidelines of 3 years, 1 year, 6 months, ? Who knows. This is deep compulsivity psychology which church officials have entirely different views on when compared to published medical/psychology experts. As pertains to "what has been discussed" This is poorly written - what bishop has any idea what the detail behind "what has been discussed" could possibly mean? It could mean oral sex, it could mean self stimulation, it could be asking if the young man has ever had an erection or wet dream, it could mean a crazy question about bestiality or fantasizing about concubines? HB1, section 7.1.7 gives instructions to leaders, "when discussing moral cleanliness, the bishop adapts the discussion to the understanding of the youth. He also ensures that the discussion does not encourage curiosity or experimentation." This is 1 one single paragraph, that needs 2 - 4 years at least of professional training on child development, counseling, psychology, CBT, ACT, to even come close to dealing with properly.
  8. New official interview policy

    It's already happening in our ward with teacher training Sundays. Gospel doctrine gets depleted to around 4 or 5 people to staff the primary. I think it will be good in the long run as we adapt and it will be safer for our kids and youth.
  9. New official interview policy

    I think functionally - everything should change by directive from the first presidency. Specifically if it were me I would read from the pulpit the changes which pertain to interviews, and like reading someone their gideon/miranda rights you and exec secretary should let the interviewee and parents know when scheduling the interview that they now have a right to be there in-person for the interview and should encourage it.
  10. When I was taking CES institute classes, the director of the institute asked how many were of the lineage of Ephraim. All the hands went up except for two. Myself and another girl from Mexico. He then asked who was from the lineage of manasseh, and so she and i raised our hands. He then explained that the lineage of Ephraim has the sacred mission to provide leadership for the church and gather the other tribes (D&Cov133:30-33). He then explained that this was why someone from the tribe of mannaseh will never be called to be an apostle. It really hurt me to hear this then, but I'm over it now. I think he subscribed to this doctrine of Ephraim at the top in birthright leadership and blacks at the bottom with no lineage or right to priesthood as was taught by Joseph Fielding Smith. This is still in our hymns, for example when singing, hymn2 the spirit of God verse 4, we sing "And Ephraim be crowned with his blessing in Zion, As Jesus descends with his chariot of fire!" Or Ye Elders of Israel Hymn319 in the chorus we sing, "O Babylon, O Babylon, we bid thee farewell; We’re going to the mountains of Ephraim to dwell." I usually just go silent on this part of the chorus. Another example, 5 years ago I was speaking with a young african american missionary who asked me with great concern why in his patriarchal blessing the patriarch refused to declare any lineage? We went through galatians 3:29, and I explained how prophets of our church due to racism, ingrained bigotry from lucifer taught that men and women of african descent could not receive temple blessings and perhaps this patriarch didn't know what to do. It bothered him greatly. I'm still waiting for the day when this institute director's perspective that hispanics of the tribe of Manasseh (Lehi's lamanite descendants) ideas will be proven wrong by the Lord. Still waiting. I know for the presidents of Relief society, Young women, and Primary the president has been 100% white since the founding of the church, as with 100% white for all apostles. For me I expect things to change because the Lord's thoughts are higher, "Isaiah 55:8-9. Certainly blacks can be declared of the tribe of Ephraim, as well as hispanics and anglo-white's of other tribes as well, and I don't think today the leaders have this older hierarchy of lineage perspective. I heard Monson was of the tribe of Levi for example.
  11. The last few times new apostles were called they have a press conference, and the reporters always ask why those chosen are not hispanic, black, or more representative of the diversity of church membership. Elder Anderson responded that he also wasn't sure why he was called, and that he could think of a number of a great candidates. What I like is what Pres Nelson prophesied that "We’ll live to see the day when there will be other flavors in the mix," he said, "but we respond because we’ve been called by the Lord. Not one of us asked to be here."
  12. Woah. I never heard of this one. Richard G Scott was involved as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A97odud60o How were Karren's accusations vetted?
  13. Does this sound familiar? "The rumors prompted members and leaders to issue carefully worded denials"
  14. No I don't have a theory. from this more recent chart Alaska is crazy high by far, with North Carolina, Connecticut the lowest at 1/2 that of Utah. https://www.statista.com/statistics/232563/forcible-rape-rate-in-the-us-by-state/#0
  15. In the referenced paper it says "Rape is the only violent crime in Utah that is [30%] higher than the national average In a state where other violent crimes, such as homicide, robbery, or aggravated assault, is historically half to three times lower than the national average, this is of concern." Does anyone have a theory on why Utah ranks 30% higher than national average ?