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    NDEs and no singularly true faith

    From what I’ve read it is a reoccurring theme, though not as common as some of the other aspects. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the issue.
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    NDEs and no singularly true faith

    And this is the discussion that I'm interested in having. I believe you've just cast another vote for ultimate truth can't be given out until after the real finish line.
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    NDEs and no singularly true faith

    I think this is sidestepping the question. Basically, Mormonism teaches that to get to the Celestial kingdom, you need to believe in Christ and receive ordinances by the authority of the priesthood. On the other hand, one of the straightforward interpretations of the aspect of NDEs being discussed is that a particular brand of faith isn't universally vital. This thread is about that disparity/conundrum, not about the literalness of visionary experience generally.
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    Middle Way Mormonism

    I do see what you're saying. It's this kind of perspective that allows me to find joy in Mormonism. But there are plenty who don't have such a perspective, so the question I'm getting at still feels relevant to my experience living Momonism.
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    Middle Way Mormonism

    I'm not sure there is a middle way consensus on the reality of God. I'd be interested to find that out, and maybe that will happen is there is more space for those discussions on blogs and message boards, etc. Like churchsitrue pointed out in his Wheat and Tares post, there are attacks from either side of the aisle (TBM and Critic) when trying to discuss a "middle way" approach.
  6. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    Temple worthy, at least on the surface of action and profession considering they are "acting."
  7. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    Thanks for sharing. Taking truth claims literally means someone believes in the literalness of various claims made by Mormon doctrine, history, etc. So, if we took the priesthood as an example, someone who believes in that literally believes that the real and resurrected John the Baptist, Peter, James, and John visited JS and bestowed the true authority/power of God. Someone who doesn't take those claims literally may have issues with or disbelieve that any or all aspects of that narrative and corresponding doctrine are literally true but may find value in them still. Obviously, that value can differ wildly from person to person.
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    Middle Way Mormonism

    The story is a bit suspect because not only do you need two extra flexible bishops but you also need at least one stake president to go along with it.
  9. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    The literal truth of Mormonism is a very important question. It can be the difference between someone being considered worthy, affect their social standing, etc. In day to day living it’s important.
  10. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    I certainly didn’t represent that in the poll, but I imagine there are a significant number of members out there doing that.
  11. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    Well, I didn’t make up the term, nor am I wedded it to it. The substance of my question really just boils down to who here takes the truth claims literally and who here participates and finds value in the church but doesn’t believe literally in Mormonism’s truth claims.
  12. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    Thanks for sharing. I didn’t really know your story.
  13. Benjamin Seeker

    NDEs and no singularly true faith

    I think that much of what is experienced seems to be not literal while some aspects seem like they could be literal.
  14. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    Which I could have predicted! Oops.
  15. Benjamin Seeker

    Middle Way Mormonism

    In fact I think I’ve botched this thread. I’ll ask the moderators to close it and see if I can do a better job with the initial poll question.
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