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Bill "Papa" Lee

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About Bill "Papa" Lee

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    Actually joined Feb 7, 2007...TBM Here!
  • Birthday 05/31/1957

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  1. Bill "Papa" Lee

    Poster Missing

    Thank you, but I was not seeking pity, or to be mentioned. I was just pointing out the obvious. No one (well two replied) to the thread I posted (I only noticed yesterday however) about taking time look inward, and turn to the scriptures, hundreds viewed it. But of those hundreds, no one cared anyway. As I recently posted on Facebook, I have been very silly to assume that others feel the same way concerning friendship, as I have (or do). Some may have felt as if I was becoming an "apostate", and just did not know what to say...who knows? People are often frightened if they think people might be becoming non-believers or apostates, and are afraid to speak or in this case reply. But the odd thing is, we should "leave the 99, and seek out the one who is lost", or whom we think are lost. I am still a believer, serving in a calling in my Ward, and I will always be a believer; always! But my silly idea that all I think of as friends, don't always view me as the same. The "scales have fallen from my eyes", in the hope, it will cause me less pain. I am 61 years old, and it is time I grow up! But, I thank you for your kind words, and if you viewed my other thread, I would ask for your prayers for in behalf of my wife. May God bless you.
  2. Hello all, I am here to ask for prayers for my wife, Pam. I believe in prayer, the Church, and the Priesthood, and most certainly prayer in numbers. My wife has a serious operation coming up this Thursday (Feb 21) and I worry for her. We celebrated our 43rd year of marriage just three weeks ago. I will give her a blessing before the surgery, but wish also that prayers of the righteous, or the believing, will bring about much. Simply put, there is no "me", without her. If I lost her, I would bury her, and come home to die, as quickly as I could. I just love her, and cannot help myself. My absence as of late does not mean I have lost my testimony, as I fear some may have thought. it was due to the fact that many did not understand my copious errors and my rambling writings, which I hope explains the very few replies (two) to my post about leaving for a time. Anyway, my family does not work without my wife, so again please prayer for her. OK, enough...time to crawl back into my into hiding. Love you all Papa
  3. Bill "Papa" Lee

    Poster Missing

    That Bill "Papa" Lee (the most forgettable person you might never miss fellow has been gone, for at least a month or so. Don't worry, this is not a comeback, just stopped by to make a prayer request. in another thread of course.
  4. Bill "Papa" Lee

    A Time to Look Inward...

    I used to have confidence in my ability to communicate, verbally to be sure, in print maybe not so much. Too often my typing abilities are either in lead or lag, of my mind, concerning what I wish to say. As a result in many different social forums, I find myself being misunderstood, or misrepresented. So, it is time to find out where and how that process came to be. Time to look inward, and see where I may improve, and to see if it is possible, to do better, or too redeem oneself. Maybe it is a possibility to do so, maybe not? Regardless of where this journey takes me, it has been both fun and frustrating. But life, "my life" is to short now, to unintentionally undo all that I sought out, to do. So for a while at least, I need to look into the scriptures and my soul, before I lose my soul. Love too all... Papa
  5. Bill "Papa" Lee

    Mormon Helping Hands

    That is a great story, and really wonderful. I spent most of my professional life, speaking before large groups, and in law-enforcement trying to dodge the press so I could do my job. So, when I was able to go help others, I just wanted to get in, do all I could, and pass unnoticed to all but God. As I said, I have no issue with others wearing the shirts, it is just not my style. I think it is wonderful thing we do for others, for many years I was the point man for the "Day of Service" each year. But when the day came, I would pull a hat down on my head, and get to work, and loved every min of it!
  6. Bill "Papa" Lee

    Mormon Helping Hands

    Even that is a mixed message, they quote the scriptures, (to make my point) and wear the shirts, and have camera crews repotting on every word. BTW, I have no issue with people wearing the shirts, I do what I do on a personal level, based on my understanding.
  7. Bill "Papa" Lee

    Mormon Helping Hands

    In my many efforts to help with flooding, hurricanes, and tornado clean up and repair, I have never worn one. Each time I was asked too, the scripture, "let not thy left hand know what thy right is doing" (too paraphrase) as I did not want to call attention to myself, or the Church. I just wanted to help, and then go home back home, and there "count my blessings", and "lay up treasure in heaven". But, I did love the work, and saddened I can no longer go help.
  8. Bill "Papa" Lee

    "But Charity is the pure love of Christ"...Moroni 7: 47-48

    I read all the time, I am getting better at my profession, everyday. But have no one to teach. Learning more and more of the scriptures, with little to no outlet to instruct. I am however helping with the home schooling once or twice a week for one of my granddaughters, who turn 13 today, tomorrow my oldest grandson will be 18, really feeling my age. I do have much to be thankful for, I have a home, and due to good investments, my wife and I do not have to work. Well she does not have too, I can't anymore. I still have the heart, and spirit (more mature) of my youth, now trapped in a body, I do not recognize. Took a bad fall a few weeks ago, injured two ribs, and a trip to the hospital; again! We are currently making repairs (remodeling) to our bathroom so it can have a larger shower, railing, and other things to be in place as things get progressively worse. My wife and I will be helping our granddaughter in Sciences, Social Science, field trips, etc. So, I am also taking upcoming Middle School classes, to stay ahead of her classes, so I am prepared to teach her. My wife has started finding things to keep me out of the house, so that my son's can work with looking over their shoulders, to insure I don't take another tumble.
  9. Bill "Papa" Lee

    "But Charity is the pure love of Christ"...Moroni 7: 47-48

    I am never "resentful", it is just hard to sit an watch. I want to climb a ladder, hand someone a tool, even though it is easy to lose my balance. When they are gone, I try to do what I can in secret, while my wife is pleading that I stop and sit down before hurting myself. I have punched my way through life, and don't know how to let others do things for me. I am trying to slip them money, I am my Father's Son.
  10. The title, and scripture reference is one of God's greatest commands, other than to believe in Him. We are promised that "whoso is found possessed of it (Charity) in the last day, it shall be well with him". The scripture goes on to inform us, that it is how, (to paraphrase) "we shall know him, see him, and be like him". In fact it is a teaching in all of our standard works, and has many names, and many functions. I have always been good at GIVING, "Charity", in all it's many forms, in my fourty years in the Church, I have worked helping people recover from flooding, hurricane relief, using the skills I have helping others with almost every area, and even given money. On the holidays, send anonymous food baskets, gifts. Up until my injury, I was weekly going out on team ups (splits) to help teach, to assist in any way that I can. Worked countless times at the Bishop's Storehouse, and Temple Work, etc. Now, I say none of this to boast, but to speak of my "problem", I am having. Now that I am unable to do what I did in the past, despite the long hours, of service to others, it was always a labor of love. Now, be it my sons, or any others, I find it almost unbearable to sit idle, watching others helping, or extend Charity to me! Currently my sons and some friends are doing two projects at our home, and when they are working, I am walking around, trying to find something I can do. My sons, my friends, and my wife, are pleading with me to "sit down and relax", so I don't get hurt. My Father was the same way, always first to help out others, but never asked for help in return. I wish to solicit from others their opinions on the concept of, "True Charity", as spelled out in James 1: 27, and "True Religion...before God". Some in my family and my Church family tell me, that by "not asking for help", or "not allowing others to help", means I am not truly living the command of "Charity". They tell me that it is my pride that makes me "uncomfortable, or "unwilling" to ask for help. Is this so? All I see in the scriptures, are the commandments, is to "be Charitable", and "to give Charity". Back in July, I had asked any of my children to help with the weed eating, so I just did it myself. My wife found me two acres away from my front door lying upon my back, unable to get up and get into the house. Two weeks later I was having "Heart stints", put in my heart. So, is it pride, or simply trying to be self sufficient, as we are taught in Church, to be so? How do we let go, and let others do the things we are now unable to do? So this is both a "genuine question", and a "doctrinal discussion", I seek. P.S. Please forgive any errors, it is very late, and I am very tired.
  11. Bill "Papa" Lee

    A course correction for the Maxwell Institute?

    Even when I "disagree", or have "issues", I will always DEFEND, the Church, or the Gospel, and those who are called to lead. So, I agree, you should "defend", especially someone with the education and respect of so many, not just yourself, but all who teach at a school owned and funded by the Church. If our leaders are to suffer the "slings and arrows" of the world, they should not have to defend against such, coming from behind them, from their own people.
  12. Bill "Papa" Lee

    LDS Tools app issue

    Thank you, the entire point of discussion in meetings, (especially the one we had Sunday) is to educate. In my 25+ years of teaching two nights a week, sometime four, (at a local College) I would tell my students, to always ask questions. Often when students ask questions (something I always pointed out on the first night of each semester) it would allow then to learn, and answer questions that some are too embarrassed to ask. Of course the topics I taught were Electrical Code and Mathmatics, to enable students to take and pass an eight hour long exam, to become licensed Electrical Contractors. So, it was very technical, and very time consuming. Ten weeks of Code and Math, and countless hours of homework I assigned were very taxing, for my students and myself. Any teacher who does not promote questions, or won't take the time to answer (within reason), should pursue another profession or calling.
  13. Bill "Papa" Lee

    LDS Tools app issue

    Not even know sure how any of it works. In Elders Quorum, when I asked for help with something, I was told; " just go to my IPhone, and to your Church App". When I said I did have it t have any such app, I received a very large laugh. On Sunday, our Bishopric had a combined meeting, is which the entire Bishopric was explaining the upcoming changes, he encouraged us to ask questions. He explained that he wanted a discussion, and not be afraid to ask about anything we don't understand. His first counselor, (my former EQP) started (again) talking about apps, the beauty of "Bluetooth", and how wherever he was in his reading from in his scriptures, when h got in his car, his phone would "sink in" the scriptures". So, I asked the Bishop what should those who just use a phone as a phone, and who did not have an app, or use books for scripture? I then got another laugh, and my Bishop abruptly told everyone to "stop it", he told them, I don't use a "Church App", on my phone either. Then others my age and older, told the Bishop "thank you", we too don't know how to do these things, but have been afraid to say so. One thanked me for the courage to say so, to which I replied, "it is not courage, just ignorance and fear of being left behind". The Bishop went on to say, "Brother Bill, I too want, and need to feel the scriptures in my hands, to me it feels warmer, and more personal". He went one to say, "I am not passing judgement on those younger and more, Tech Savvy, but like you, I grew up with a different approach to the study of the scriptures, like you, I want to feel the book(s) in my hand". Even when I ask my children, they start talking so fast, and become quite aggravated. Anyway, my youngest is going to try and drag my prehistoric mind into the 21st Century'. But, even then, I am being encouraged to "create a profile", where I am even to upload a photo, so others in my Ward and Stake will "know who I am". It is very likely, I would have kept pace, with the pace of the Internet, word documents, spreadsheets, whatever. But, due to a crippling accident, I have know worked for an hour in 7 years, and only got an iPhone just recently. So, once I get the "Church App", on my phone, maybe someone my age will take the time showing me how to do other things, without making me feel like the moron I am. Or so it would seem I am, before I am " left behind at the station", so to speak.
  14. Bill "Papa" Lee

    A Unique Church, and a Church of Wonderful Service

    I fully admit, I am slow to change, maybe it is a combination of technology, and age.. Also, I spoke of concern that fewer Priesthood leaders who must now deal with every family, now only half as before. Bey, my back and disabilities love the new two hour block. As for reporting, issues about families. If people were doing home teaching right, they would have already been ministering as they should, as in my five years as the High Priest Group Leaser, I wanted details above numbers, and would act of them if needed. Even if I had to minister to their needs alone