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    Jesus Christ

    I’m not saying he wasn’t able to blend in, but using the need for Judas to point him out as proof that he blended in isn’t very reliable. What if he were pointing him out for the same reason a witness in a court of U.S. law would be asked to point out a murderer or something, even though everyone already knows good and well who the accused is? Personally I have the opinion that we just don’t know what He looks like, just like Carbon Dioxide brought up about half His DNA. I personally believe that this other half is God’s DNA, and that doesn’t limit Him to looking like your typical native of that area in my opinion.
  2. I think we often miss the mark by trying to dissect what we need to learn to do in this life. It won’t matter if we embrace the right church or creed, and even try and live a certain way, if we don’t hear our Savior’s voice and obey it. Just like the parable of the ten virgins. By being virgins, IMO, means they were living very right, and that they also symbolized those in the right church. A virgin to me is as pure as one can be. 5 of them were foolish and didn’t bring any oil with their lamps. They got locked out even though they were supposed to be part of the wedding party. Even other virgins (more very good people) came to try and replace the foolish ones who got locked out, but they too were turned away. I think hearing, and obeying, the voice of our Savior is just like having the oil in our lamps. We all are born with an inner enlightenment, commonly called our conscience: D&C 93:2 And that I am the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world; John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. Moroni 7:16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil;...... We can either learn to heed that light of Christ, or we can try and bury it until we no longer even feel it and darkness is all that’s left. As we obey it, we learn to hear it better and better, unless we too decide to bury it instead. Eventually we will be led toward our Savior because it truly is His voice, and we will be led to embrace His church and be given the gift of the Holy Ghost. We could just go through the motions without learning to hear His voice, but we won’t be able to actually receive that gift until we know how to recognize His voice, and live pure enough to be worthy of that gift, utilizing the great atoning mercy to become worthy anyway. John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Alma 5:38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd. 39 And now if ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd, of what fold are ye? Behold, I say unto you, that the devil is your shepherd, and ye are of his fold; and now, who can deny this? Behold, I say unto you, whosoever denieth this is a liar and a child of the devil. D&C 84:51 For whoso cometh not unto me is under the bondage of sin. 52 And whoso receiveth not my voice is not acquainted with my voice, and is not of me. 53 And by this you may know the righteous from the wicked, and that the whole world groaneth under sin and darkness even now. The vision that Lehi, and his son Nephi afterwards, saw tells me exactly what we need to do in this life. (I don’t want to copy and paste it because it’s too long, but starts around 1 Nephi 8 or so, if I remember correctly) First off it tells us what is the most thing we can desire.... the love of God. In order to feast upon that we have to first obtain it’s source, and then we need to stay and keep enjoying it, while ignoring the scoffers, with man’s wisdom. In order to obtain it we need to grasp the iron rod, which is literally the word of God. Holding onto the word of God will ensure that we make it to that destination, regardless of not seeing the path the entire time, which means to me that we can’t use our intellect alone to stay on the path. The word of God comes from many sources, but the main source that will for sure carry us to our destination is personal revelation, or in other words, His voice, which doesn’t contradict the other sources anyway. The reason I believe it’s mainly by His voice is because there have been some people who have read the Bible, Book Of Mormon, listened to prophets, etc., who have fallen off of the path, but if you are following His voice all along the way you can’t go wrong, unless you decide to let go. If we continue to partake of the love of God, we will by default be obeying the commandments, we will know His voice and obey until the end, but if we cease to partake, even if we already had partaken, then we aren’t enduring to the end. If we endure to the end this way, we will not only have eternal life, but exaltation too, which means we can progress to our full potential as children of our Father in Heaven. This potential means growing up to be just like Him, but not replacing Him as some in error believe, thinking it’s blasphemy: Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? This just means we will be one with Him: John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. Moses 7:18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them. That’s how I believe it to be anyway.