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  1. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    The Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30) comes to mind, especially vss. 21 and 23, in which the Lord praises those who earned increase: Yes, change is hard for creatures of habit such as we are. Still, this seems to be one of the "few things" over which we are asked to be "faithful" (and as at least one other poster, quoting Alma 37, has pointed out a "small and simple" thing, at that), yet, still, there seems to be opposition even among some seemingly faithful members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. One wonders, if we're not faithful over a "few . . . small and simple things," how is it that we can expect to be made "ruler over many things" or to enter into the joy of the Lord? Is such a reward as that not worth any price, let alone such a relatively small price as this one? Yet, still, many seem reluctant to pay. My "natural man" (see Mosiah 3:19), to a degree, can understand such reluctance: "If I start talking it more, that means I'll have to start walking it more, too, and I don't know if I'm ready for that!" https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2017-01-020-i-belong-to-the-church-of-jesus-christ?lang=eng And as for the logistical complexities which might be involved in this re-emphasis on both an individual and an institutional level, my "natural man" notwithstanding ("How are leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ going to pull this off? How do they expect me/us to pull it off?" ) as for me and my house (see Joshua 24:15), I'll try to take a 1 Nephi 3:7 approach.
  2. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    I didn't refer to the style guide at all. Got substance, or is mere substance-free sneering your specialty?
  3. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    "Boy, President Nelson has stepped in it now! This is going to be a public relations nightmare for the Mormon Church!" "President Nelson is a doddering old fool who's teetering on the very edge of senility!" "I'm too attached to the moniker, 'Mormon,' and it's too attached to me, for me to change it now!" "'Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'? Why, that's simply too much of a mouthful!" "There's so much wrong in the world, and this is what our 'prophets, seers, and revelators' [capitalization, or lack thereof, intentional] are fixated upon? This is the 'revelation' they get?" And on an on, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. And this is all coming from members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Others' mileage varies, I'm sure, but sometimes, I do wonder if we members of the Church of Jesus Christ aren't our own worst enemies. But maybe that's just me.
  4. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    Google says, "Kniga Mormona."
  5. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    Please allow me to introduce you to one of your long-time coworkers, Tad Walch: https://www.deseretnews.com/author/9061/Tad-Walch.html
  6. Kenngo1969

    The Name of the Church

    Shorthand (authorizedly, of course ;)) the name of the Church: "Doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ."
  7. Kenngo1969

    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    Post hoc, ergo, propter hoc.
  8. Kenngo1969

    Denson's Lawsuit Dismissed by Federal Judge

    Good enough. You're probably right. Ms. Denson's credibility problems aside, I wonder how, if at all, this whole episode might change how the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints deals with allegations of the McKenna Densons of the world institutionally.
  9. Kenngo1969

    Denson's Lawsuit Dismissed by Federal Judge

    I wonder, what would be sufficient notice to constitute "public knowledge"? A single newspaper story or broadcast news item with no further follow up? A series of them (an initial story with several follow-ups)? Today's environment, with the technical tools that exist now for dissemination of information (Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, other social media, e-mail, the Internet, and so on) seems to be an "outlet-rich" and "content-rich" environment compared to the early-to-mid-1980s, when, essentially, three television networks (cable television still was rather a novelty), a handful of radio stations, and a few newspapers constituted the bulk of the average person's store of sources of information regarding such things. And given the then-relatively-narrow array of sources of information regarding such things, could the then-teenage McKenna Denson reasonably have been expected to pay attention to such things even if the allegations about Bishop's mistreatment of women had been widely disseminated and discussed in then-prevalent media? If so, given the way society's attitudes in general toward sexual harassment and sexual assault may have changed between then and now (from a much more laissez faire, "boys'll-be-boys" attitude to one that, rightly, is much less dismissive and much more concerned: see #Metoo, Harvey Weinstein (and any other of a number of public figures I could name if I took the time), the current 24-hour news cycle, et cetera, almost ad infinitum) might Ms. Denson simply (and understandably) have shrugged if off, even in the unlikely event that she had made a connection? "Wait a minute! Joseph Bishop is the MTC president? Wasn't he accused of sexual harassment (etc.) at Weber State back in the 1970s?" I'm not an apologist for Ms. Denson; I'm just a guy whose professional reputation (while sexual harassment/assault wasn't the issue, so I guess I can at least be thankful for that ), essentially, has been destroyed permanently. And I can see Ms. Denson's attorney(s) making exactly these sorts of arguments regarding the "constructive knowledge"/"What-did-she-know-and-when-did-she-know-it?" issue.
  10. Kenngo1969

    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    I'm speaking of the transparency in general that you have spoken in favor of. I have no idea why you took the conversation in that direction, but, whatever.
  11. Kenngo1969

    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    The thing about transparency is, no matter how much you know, there's no way to know how much you don't know.
  12. Kenngo1969

    The State of Mormon Apologetics

    This whole thread simply goes to prove my theory: The only thing more preposterous than the actual story of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon is ... all of the other proffered explanations for its existence!
  13. Kenngo1969

    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    As Mr. McKnight's entire enterprise shows, for purposes of criminal prosecution, it ain't about whatcha know, it's about whatcha can prove. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that if one or more of Mr. McKnight's sources were discovered and if that person then were subjected to civil suit or to criminal prosecution under the appropriate cause(s) of action or the appropriate statute, respectively, Mr. McKnight wouldn't exactly be falling all over himself to rise to that person's defense. Mr. McKnight skates on the thin edge of plausible deniability. That's fine, if that's what he chooses to do: I assume he knows the potential risks inherent to doing so and accepts them. But that doesn't exempt him or his actions from public critique, even if you dismiss such public critique as mere "whining." And, as Bluebell's post from earlier shows, there are plenty of people who hold absolutely no brief for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who find Mr. McKnight's enterprise and his actions to be ethically suspect, at the least, if not criminal. And you've done your share of whining here (because you know full well that that's all you can do), and, in case you're wondering, no, your crap doesn't smell like roses while everyone else's smells like ... well ... actual crap. Just sayin'!
  14. Kenngo1969

    Updating preach my gospel?

    Well, hopefully, all of us "clean up pretty good" after the Resurrection. I don't know exactly what God's Eternal Plan is for me, either, but I don't think the Omnipotent, Omniscient, All-Loving Lord of the Universe is gonna have to tell any of us, "I know you were expecting something more, or something better, or at least something ... different ... but ... sorry. I know this means it sucks to be you, but, this is the best I could do." There will be more than a few surprises beyond the veil: "Wait a minute! That's not the same guy I passed every day as I was going to work who was sitting on the corner and who had a cupful of thermometers in one hand and a cup for loose change in the other ... is it?" Well ... it is and it isn't!