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  1. Speaking personally, when I was a youth we had the who surprise thing which has since been known as the "Mormon Battalion and Women's pull". We all knew it was historically inaccurate, but so was sitting on our plastic coolers during dinner. Still, the purpose in this case was not historical accuracy, but a spiritual experience- and that it certainly was. They got all the guys up to "march" at the break of dawn, and off they went to the Martian's Cove fireside and along the trek. Us ladies followed (relatively) quickly, spending longer to bond and figure out how we were going to do this. We spent MUCH longer at the fireside, bonding, and then finally headed up the steep hills. Meanwhile, the guys had marched several miles down the trial, so much that the leaders eventually called a halt and "let's just hang out for a while" break. One of the 14 years olds yelled "We got to go help the girls!" And off all the young men went- running as fast as they could, leaving all the shocked leaders in the dust. They ran back for miles! For my perspective, I'm pushing my cart up one of the steepest hills when all of a sudden I hear shouting and seeing our boys crest down the join in beside me. I admit, I had a very low opinion of the young men growing up (only slightly deserved), but at that moment I saw the spiritual giant a young man in Christ can be. Was my experience historically accurate? Heck no! But that moment was one of the most profound spiritual moments I have ever experienced.
  2. Who suggested that? I've read quite a few posts of people praying him for his honest integrity.
  3. You're trying to write a thesis based off two question where a person can only answer A or B, when people's real answers are easily options C, D, E....Z? That's hugely flawed!
  4. Do you have a copy of the survey questions and the order in which they were asked? Because it is VERY easy for a single/few questions to cartoonize things (particularly when many people don't understand the theory of evolution).
  5. This is a really false simplification of a complex and nuanced issue. If you want to fully understand the issues and people's thoughts on the matter, you can't cartoonize it like this.
  6. But just standing there doesn't really convey the symbolic message of heralding something.
  7. A horn is symbolic of heralding or proclaiming something, such as the angel in Rev 14:6.
  8. Yep! We (all Christians) have this common core and believe that while Christ saves a person's action is required.
  9. Note: people are motivated in different areas in their life, and do serve more that way. For example I'm mega passionate and gifted in Family History. So I've spent much of my life serving in various activities there: researching myself, helping others, running the Family History Center, giving classes, making trips to big libraries, etc. My sister is passionate about temple work and feels strongly there, so she takes people (living and deceased) to the temple. Others are gifted with children and spend tons of time there. So LDS people can indeed be highly gifted and passionate about certain areas, but I don't say "I'm just going to do Family History" and turn down other aspects of life (just as one example).
  10. (Again, I mean NO disrespect to the Catholic tradition in this response- I greatly admire it actually. This response is also just my flawed opinion). LDS doctrine stresses becoming a disciple of Christ in all aspect of our life: in our job, family, church service, community service, etc. Closeting ourselves off to only be one quasi-permentently seems like shutting the door on many opportunities for well-rounded growth. Note: your post didn't mean like you were suggesting that at all. You were very respectful. I just replied the way I did, because people often fail to see the discernment in LDS tradition because it is a different tradition set up, so I was trying to highlight it. People usually accept callings, but not always-- a person is supposed to discern whether or not it's right for them. Two examples from my life: they asked me to help out with scouts a week night I was required to work (obviously a no-go). The other was when they asked me help out with the kids, at a time in my life when I REALLY needed some adult fellowship in my life. I explained thus, and they then asked me to help out with women's fellowship activities, fulfilling a need in my life and the ward.
  11. Back when it was a long way to the temple, such were common. In parts of the world where it still is a long way, they are still common. People don't sleep at the temple, but will spend their waking day(s) working/contemplating there. Nowadays when a temple is close, it is common for those whom are able (usually retired) to spend several days a month working at the local temple. Yep! That's a large part of it's purpose. LDS do emphasize more on frequent visits rather than infrequent lengthy ones in order to have frequent infusions/reminders of that spiritual focus (logistics permitting, of course).
  12. In my experience, <0.01% of Christians believe that a person may take zero action (aka not believe and not repent and not accept Christ) and be saved.
  13. LOL!! I'm not confining this discussion merely to the resurrection! (Not to minimize the marvelousness of that) Tell me: are you an EV? Do you, like LDS, believe that a person must believe in Him in order to be saved? There is no difference in beliefs here: both EV and LDS believe that a person must accept Christ's gift in order to be saved.
  14. In short, LDS don't believe a person has to pick 1 of the 4 options you describe, but can do a combination of them and/or different combinations in different seasons of life. I'll go into a longer explanation below. (I apologize for how disjointed it is). This may or may not happen in this life. But ultimately, we do believe that it is not good for a man to be alone, and it is God's ultimate desire for everyone to have a spouse. Again, it may or may not happen in this life, and also is dependent on us desiring this too. Note: all Mormon women are also called to serve God. This service also looks very different than it does in the Catholic church (not permeant assignments, no vow of chastity, having a day job, etc). Women may serve too. While I respect the Catholic tradition in this regard, that sounds like a horrible idea for LDS. While the LDS way of doing things can involve some juggling, in my opinion it also makes a person more rounded: we are all involved in church, family, the world, etc. I have the joy of going to my job (I do like my job), the splendor of having my daughter in the evening, and honor of serving God in church. Yes, my plate is full, but it is also full of joy, and I do get rest (as the Lord commands). Note: Catholicism did traditionally have married priests, and some rites still do today. I also daresay that Catholic priests feel very stressed and juggling, despite the lack of family/secular day job. This is the 21st century: we now wear suits and skirts I don't think you're being critical at all. In fact I enjoyed your post a lot. I've always had a fascination with Catholic tradition in this regard. (Answering these together) LDS individuals also discern. For example they discerns whether or not to accept a calling. They also discern whether or not to service a mission (either during young years or senior). They discern whom/when/where/if to marry. They discern in their daily walk with Christ, individually and serving in the Church. They discern where to work secularly. They discern where to live. There is MUCH prayer and discernment in an LDS person's life. We pray many times a day, preach frequently about the value of prayer, contemplation, and the gift of discernment. These are all a huge part of LDS life.
  15. Now that's a different statement then what you were making before. You're welcome to believe that as you wish, and I won't debate it with you. You're talking to a person who believes a virgin had a baby, a baby that was the divine Son of God, that He grew up, died, and rose from the dead-- all for my benefit. If you're looking from an atheist standpoint, coffee is far from the "craziest" of my beliefs.