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About gopher

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  1. You have over 15k posts and you still have questions and concerns the smart believers here haven't been able to resolve? That seems hard to believe.
  2. But don't members want to believe they have unique gifts that are needed to build up the church, assist in the gathering, etc? Some missionaries believe they are sent to a certain country because they are the only one who can find and baptize certain people. Is it wrong to feel you are unique if you don't then compare yourself to others?
  3. Did you get that from the joke page of Boys Life magazine?
  4. Recently Dan Reynolds of Imagine Dragons was quoted in an article discussing what makes him a unique Mormon. It's understandable that many feel they possess traits and qualities that make them different from other members. However, it can be a challenge to distinguish yourself today especially with all the competition from social media. Reynolds explains: "Some days I don’t believe in anything — some days I’m probably more atheist than your atheist friend". What is it that makes you unique as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?
  5. Since everyone in Utah blindly follows what the prophet says (or so I've heard), maybe it's evidence that the Mormon culture doesn't hate LGBTQ citizens after all? President Gordon B. Hinckley said: "People inquire about our position on those who consider themselves so-called gays and lesbians. My response is that we love them as sons and daughters of God." I don't see any place for hatred or violence by Utah members of the church towards anyone. Well, maybe with the exception of families traveling in a wagon train from Arkansas. But seriously, how often does Utah see that? I realize there is a lot of hatred out there for gays, minorities, Trump supporters, etc. I haven't seen any encouragement from a president of the Church to engage in such behavior. Does anyone have a quote from a recent president to the contrary? I live far from Utah, but I get the impression the state loves to show off how accepting they can be to those outside the Church. I'd love to be treated with the same respect offered by the Church by those who disagree with me. I'm sure there are members who don't follow the council from the prophet, but it sounds like SLC is a pretty safe place for the LGBTQ community to live. Nice to see Dan Reynolds with his shirt on for the article. Since he started working out, most photos show him without his shirt on.
  6. At the Philly temple open house the tour guide also called it the "instruction" room. I guess they are using the same script?
  7. Didn't the Godmakers video show an elderly woman discussing how she had to keep the garment on while washing? That's the only time I've heard that claim I found out last summer that all garments that are tried on for size at Deseret Books are destroyed.
  8. Just give everyone more time Q: Where are you most often when you read MDDB? A: See thread title
  9. The only family that has left the church are two sisters after moving to Utah. Holy heck, what the fetch is going on in that flipping' state that kills testimonies and destroys faith?
  10. According to Bro Douglas Holmes of the YMGP, worldwide the 5th Sunday in September will be used to introduce the program. There will be a face to face broadcast in November led by Elder Gong. He mentioned that currently moms with kids in the programs are responsible for 470+ requirements for Duty to God, Faith in God, and Personal Progress. He said the new program will be radically different since all those are going away. He didn't give any more details in the training meeting this morning.
  11. As a proud feminist son of God, I'm appalled that an attractive young man publicly announced his intentions to discriminate against more than half our society. Can you imagine the howls from the patriarchy if a woman got up and announced she was starting a business and would only hire other women? I won't be sending my daughters to a school that tolerates such sexism, male privilege, and blatant discrimination against others who happen to be born with different genitalia.
  12. I thought you shared the article as evidence for your position that the Nov 15 policy was responsible for an increase in gay teen suicides in the church, which is the reason given for the protests and this thread. My bad. It may be good to talk more openly about suicide. I don't think it's good to spread harmful conclusions that aren't supported by the experts who are studying this problem.
  13. No where does it make the claim the church's Nov 15 policy was responsible for the suicides.
  14. The article was clear that conclusions such as the one you made are incorrect. And drugs are evil especially when used by teens.
  15. All four apologies accepted!!!! Yes, the board is still flakey sometimes with posting duplicates.
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