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  1. Sure, there are some uninspiring speakers, but all it takes is one new convert or recently activated member to bear sincere testimony to make F&T meetings worth it for me.
  2. What would the reaction be if the girl said she is a lesbian but intends to remain faithful to her testimony of the restored gospel and keep the law of chastity as it is currently taught in the church? That would take even more courage, imo. Unfortunately, it would likely result in vicious attacks on her by those opposed to the church. Reading the comments on youtube, huffpo,fark,etc is depressing. The level of hatred towards the LDS church and its members is appalling. I hope it doesn't lead to violence. This week a man shot a congressman and others nearby because of his hatred towards them.
  3. For those interested in the actual numbers in the US: Also, Link I got the link from this interesting story from my newsfeed entitled, "'Born this way'? It's way more complicated than that". Link
  4. I recently attended the final training for trek. We usually learn from the dumb stuff that's done out west, so there are plenty of precautions added to keep the youth safe. There will also be a full time EMT there. I expect there will be some complaining from youth (and some leaders) during trek, but I think it's going to be a blast for most. I wish it was available when I was younger, but I plan to have a lot of fun as an adult leader. The youth do service projects all year already, so I don't see how Habitat for Humanity (as noble a cause as it is) is going to provide them a better experience than trek. It's unique, challenging, and may be a life changing experience for some youth. I don't know if trek costs much more than the usual youth conferences held on non-trek years. In my stake, the only complaints I've heard came from a few adults who have never gone on trek. If the only thing the youth get out of it is a fun experience, is that so bad? Maybe one reason the church is losing younger members is because they see how boring, dull, and no fun the adults have become. (oops, almost forgot the smiley face )
  5. yep, that is heavily stressed. We were warned by the Stake YW president that some young women won't want to drink anything during trek so they won't have to go to the bathroom on the trail. Maybe I'll use the news story in your link as motivation, if needed. As I posted before, the stated purpose of trek is to "strengthen testimonies, build unity, and learn gospel principles while learning from the experiences of the handcart pioneers". Maybe there are better activities to provide the goals you listed. I hope to help make it a great experience for the youth, no matter how contrived, misguided, or historically inaccurate parts of trek may be.
  6. I agree. I don't think it's helpful to promise the youth they will have powerful spiritual experiences on trek (or any other church activity). It sounds like our stake leaders have learned that lesson. From the handbook, it states the purpose of trek is to "strengthen testimonies, build unity, and learn gospel principles while learning from the experiences of the handcart pioneers". Those seem like reasonable and realistic goals. Dead babies aren't mentioned anywhere in the handbook, so I think we are safe there. However, I do like the trek talks in Church. Of course, the youth need a topic to speak on instead of just giving a report on what they did on trek.
  7. Thanks, that will be good to keep in mind. I don't get the impression our stake is trying to make it unnecessarily difficult. We are supposed to watch the youth closely for any signs of "trail sickness", which is mostly heat exhaustion and dehydration. I think the first day is the hardest, with around 5 miles of trekking.
  8. According to the top secret trek handbook that I'm not supposed to allow the youth to see, there will be "pioneer games" such as stick pulling, leg wrestling, and knife/ax throwing. But they claim the most popular activity is hair washing. The youth are supposed to wash each others hair? How am I going to get the young men to do that?
  9. wow, our schedule shows getting into camp by 6:30 the first night, 2:30 the next day, and only one hour of pulling handcarts the last day. Everyone is supposed to be in bed by 9:30. I don't think it serves any meaningful purpose to make the trek insanely difficult. It's never going to be as authentic as the actual pioneer trek, so it doesn't hurt to compromise on a few things.
  10. Anyone going on trek this year? I've never gone before even as a youth but was asked to be a "Pa" this year. One guideline for our stake that I really appreciate is they have told the adults to keep quiet during the testimony meeting at trek. Instead, only the youth should bear their testimonies. The stake leaders explained that often the youth feel intimidated and hesitant to share their feelings and testimonies when adults are included.
  11. Now I don't feel so bad about forgetting to donate to Friends of Scouting this year (I usually do contribute, often reluctantly). In my area, BSA claims it costs them $225 a year per boy to run their programs. I've never understood what the Varsity and Venture scouts get from BSA. Maybe it's worth it for the insurance? Our Activity girls do their own week long summer day camp. I think the Primary presidency came up with the idea and implements it each year.
  12. The only time I've witnessed gaslighting in the church was around the campfire on a boy scout campout. Please warn your young men that it can cause serious harm and should not be attempted.
  13. I think you are referring to this. It's a series of 12 week training courses led by "facilitators" called from the wards. The four courses I've seen are: Personal finance Starting and Growing My Business Education for Better Work Find a Better Job Good luck not dying. That would stink.
  14. It's sad to hear missionaries are wasting time hanging out in church buildings. We've had 9 baptisms in the past 2 years in our ward and 8 have come from knocking on doors by the missionaries. We had a baptism two weeks ago of a 60 year old man who said he had been looking his entire life for what the missionaries taught him at his door. Last week he received the Priesthood (which couldn't have happened 40 years ago). I don't see missionaries getting coddled here. I can't even make fun of the many missionaries we get from Utah for being soft and vulnerable from growing up in such a sheltered environment. They are every bit as tough as the missionaries we send out. I don't think we are doing them any favors by removing all the hardships. But they are still kids and having a friendly and supportive ward makes a huge difference to their morale. Last year (2016) the DC South mission set a goal of 300 baptisms - they ended up with 303. I thought President Eyring's comments in Priesthood session were interesting when he admitted we don't always do things the most effective way in the church. Maybe we could increase the number of baptisms if we only sent out older, more knowledgeable, and more experienced missionaries. But that's not the only focus of our missionary program.
  15. Here's the best asparagus leek soup recipe I've tried (ok, the only asparagus leek soup recipe I've tried): TOTAL TIME: Prep: 25 min. Cook: 35 min. MAKES: 12-16 servings Ingredients 3 large leeks, sliced into 1/2-inch pieces 1 large onion, chopped 3 tablespoons butter 4 medium potatoes, peeled and diced 3 medium carrots, thinly sliced 1 teaspoon salt 2-1/2 quarts chicken broth 1/2 cup uncooked long grain rice 1 pound fresh asparagus, but into 1-inch pieces 1/2 pound fresh spinach, chopped into 1/2-inch pieces 1/4 teaspoon pepper 1 cup heavy whipping cream Directions In a Dutch oven, saute leeks and onion in butter until tender. Add the potatoes, carrots, salt, broth and rice. Cover and bring to a boil; reduce heat and simmer for 25-30 minutes. Stir in asparagus. Cover and simmer for 10-15 minutes or until vegetables are tender. Add the spinach, pepper and cream; heat through. Yield: 12-16 servings (4-1/2 quarts). source: http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/asparagus-leek-soup