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  1. Rajah Manchou

    The DNA Issue again.

    Only Joseph, Emma and Martin Harris would have worked with the contents of the 116 pages. As you know, Joseph Smith Sr. told his version to Fayette Lapham supposedly before the Book of Mormon was published. My reading of Sr's account is that there were others in the land, but that had become extinct just previous to the arrival of the Lehites: "After sailing a long time, they came to land, went on shore, and thence they traveled through boundless forests, until, at length, they came to a country where there were a great many lakes; which country had once been settled by a very large race of men, who were very rich, having a great deal of money. From some unknown cause, this nation had become extinct...When they, the Jews, first beheld this country, they sent out spies to see what manner of country it was, who reported that the country appeared to have been settled by a very large race of men, and had been, to all appearances, a very rich agricultural and manufacturing nation."
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    The DNA Issue again.

    "We have been driven out of the land of our inheritance; but we have been led to a better land, for the Lord has made the sea our path, and we are upon an isle of the sea...wherefore as it says isles, there must needs be more than this, and they are inhabited also by our brethren." - 2 Nephi 10:20 What do you suppose the "it" is, and who are the brethren that it refers to?
  3. Rajah Manchou

    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    When you want to go to Mexico with your family, what is the solution?
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Could we for once discuss an issue without dividing things up into left and right? Otherwise, we get nowhere.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    I work daily with migrants, refugees and asylum seekers. Believe me, in almost every case they do not want to enter a country illegally. So why do they do it? Because they can't enter the country legally.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Not only did we withdraw from the Human Right Council, but we have labelled them an "embarrassment" and a "mockery". North Korea = Smart and powerful. Let's work together. UN Human Rights Council = Defenders of human rights abusers. We refuse to participate. This administration is unbelievably bizarre.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Looks like the United States has dropped out of the UN Human Rights Council following their statement about this issue. https://www.c-span.org/video/?447326-1/trump-administration-announces-withdrawal-un-human-rights-council So now, the question becomes: if illegal migrants anywhere carry their children across a border, should their children be removed from them?
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    The situation is the same, but not exactly. The sad reality is when there is a democrat in office, his opponents and their supporters will be outraged. When there is a republican in office, his opponents and their supporters will be outraged. My guess is that we will now see a left-leaning pundit organize a project (media event) to feed and protect the children on the border as an attempt to draw attention to Trump's policies. The people who didn't show up in 2014 will be the ones taking selfies, while those who did show up in 2014 will stay home. I'm really sick and tired of bipartisan politics in America.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Source for this?
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    So let me get this right: (1) Someone carries their child across the US border; (2) That person is apprehended by ICE; (3) Their child is given out to someone, hopefully a relative; (4) That person disappears with the child because they don't want to be apprehended. So, is the child lost or not? If not lost, where are they. If you say they are in custody of a person without an address or phone number who is trying to evade contact, it would seem there is a problem. One thing that helps in these situations is to consider what your reaction to the issue would be if the President or Party you don't like was responsible. What would your reaction be if Fox & Friends had a one hour segment on how the Obama administration lost track of 1500 children? Would you think differently about the issue if someone else was to blame? I find it much easier to think clearly on political issues if I try to frame things fairly.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    I'd consider that even-handed too. But you are talking about the guy who wrote: (1) How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them (2) Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future (3) Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV (4) Bullies: How the Left's Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans Nothing against Shapiro, and I do enjoy listening to him, but I don't listen expecting an even-handed or civil (not resorting to name-calling) approach to anything. No. That's fine, and its good to get Shapiro's perspective on it. But you said the reason the big furor has erupted is because the media hates Trump. I think furor has erupted because the first report that most heard about this issue was about Federal officials losing track of nearly 1500 children, and some of those were turned over to smugglers or human traffickers. That's what bothers me about this story. If that reporting was untrue, or the result of leftist hatred, please let me know.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Ben Shapiro is even-handed about nothing. From the first 12 seconds, its obvious.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    Also, America is their Promised Land: "We have got to be sent forth as missionaries to all parts of this American continent. Not to the Gentiles, for their times will be fulfilled; but we must go to all those tribes that roam through the cold regions of the north—British America, to all the tribes that dwell in the Territories of the United States, also to all those who are scattered through Mexico, and Central and South America, and the object of our going will be to declare the principles of the Gospel unto them, and bring them to a knowledge of the truth. “Then shall they assist my people who are scattered on all the face of the land, that they may be gathered in to the New Jerusalem. Will not this be a great work? It will take a good while to gather all these tribes of South America, for some of them will have to come from five to eight thousand miles in order to reach the New Jerusalem." - Discourse by Elder Orson Pratt, delivered in the Twentieth Ward Meetinghouse, on the Evening of Sunday, February 7, 1875. Given our role to carry them on our shoulders to Zion, there's no justification for separating children from their families at their border in hopes that they will be deterred and go back home. And saying they should come here legally is not enough, because many have already tried that, only to be turned away time and time again. Its time for immigration reform. Let the Lamanites return to Zion.
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    The Church Has Spoken on Immigration Policy

    The crime is pretty bad, as one pundit recently said: "Has anyone been looking at the Crime taking place south of the border. It is historic, with some countries the most dangerous places in the world." - Donald Trump So that is the irony. Trump himself acknowledges that it is extremely dangerous in those countries. But parents, do not bring your children to safety in America, or else!
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    The DNA Issue again.

    I'm nitpicking, but the Jaredites were contemporary with the Chamorro and Austronesians. "Somewhere between 2000 and 1500 BC, around the time that Abraham was moving out of the Chaldees to his new home in what was later to be Palestine, another movement was taking place. Sailing canoes from the west arrived bringing the first people to settle in Micronesia." (source) There is evidence of sharing of boat forms between Austronesians and Phonecians Mesopotamians from an early period. (source) Note: the reference to Mesopotamians and Phoenicians in Kamarupa/Kamara mentioned in Waruno Mahdi's article above supports the Book of Mormon narrative of Jaredites/Israelites in Cumorah. In my opinion, of course.
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