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    Heaven always does what is right

    Zech 5: 3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. 4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof. 5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. 7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8 And he said, This is wickedness.
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    Silk in Ancient MesoAmerica

    Cloth made from the flower silk of the milk weed. Sorry, you Mesoamericanists. In S. America the hair of the Alpaca(esp infants) is sometimes compared to silk.
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    Is the Bible self-authenticating?

    My interpretation is not mine alone. There are those who are so authorized. 3 Nephi 21:11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.
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    Is the Bible self-authenticating?

    Truth is knowable through scripture given us, and as revealed through His revelator and unique Son, Jesus Christ. So, I attach myself to Him as my arbiter. I certainly need one. To the extent that the interpretations of men agree with scripture, I ponder them and pray about them. However, I have found most men have presumed to understand, rather than to offer true light - which is the problem I have with "orthodoxy" being that light. There is not a lot in "orthodoxy" that I retain anymore as truth besides basics of the gospel.
  5. I believe as society has become more secular, this is the inevitable result. If one doesn't love their neighbor as Christianity teaches, one tends to get more selfish. Our citizenry now expects more from government than ever before, and that sets them up to be outraged if they don't get it. They don't think of the sacrifice of other citizens to pay for everything government does. Anger/outrage is largely a selfish emotion. It does not have empathy and love for others. Society has become quick to judge on a "politically correct" scale. This tendency can spill over into attitudes towards Church policies and teachings as well, which I think is your point. Should we excommunicate members just because they are outraged? I think everyone is entitled to a cooling off period. Society is teaching outrage though because that is what motivates people to get off their duff. It is a highly motivating emotion, so if you want to get people to do things, get them outraged. So that button is getting pushed a lot. I think the Church needs to be forgiving as much as individuals do. Nonetheless, if someone is going on a public campaign of outrage, and trying to stir up people against the Church, and lead them away, that is where I draw the line. Otherwise there is not much room for grassroots movements within the Church for change. I don't think someone should be excommunicated just because they want change in the Church, and are speaking their mind. It;s kind of that old authority vs free speech debate. Trying to stomp out all dissent seems a little characteristic of the Middle Age Church, and I believe has no place in Yeshua''s restored Church.
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    Another Crazy Thread From Cdowis

    I liked your comment at Youtube to this video. I don't think he would like my comments or response. Hypotheticals are just a lame way to make a point when it comes to religion. The problem with religions as I see it is that people assume too much, and that blocks their path to truth.
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    Is the Bible self-authenticating?

    Unless Yeshua tells you it is true. Thanks for sharing your story. I love conversion stories and didn't know yours.
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    That Deadpool Poster

    I hardly think Once Upon a Deadpool is going to be akin to The Book of Mormon Musical (which I never saw). We are seen as the ultra-conservative religious right though, so I can see that painting getting spoofed that way. Like I said, I'm not sure I will be able to stomach this movie. I'm not feeling any overt animosity towards the Church from it yet though. It seems to be poking at the religious right at large - I see nothing worth getting worked up or offended about yet. I guess time will tell. However, I doubt I will rush out to see this movie. I have no affinity for the Deadpool character. I may watch it if I still have cable at the time and it creates a ruckus...
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    That Deadpool Poster

    Maybe they will hire you to be their marketing manager I don't know much about this movie, but it seems an attempt to make Deadpool appeal to a broader audience. I didn't watch the first 2 because the character is just too profane for my tastes, but I did find myself laughing at the trailer for this movie. Who knows? Maybe I will be able to stomach this movie - which does seem an attempt to deadpool a more conservative, religious audience. Can I laugh at myself?
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    Evidence for the Book of Abraham

    Didn't the kings begin to be called pharaohs in the eighteenth dynasty? I'm not sure when the word pharaoh entered the picture, but I think it was well after the first unification of the crown. That implies some invasion of a foreign rule somewhere along the line that perhaps introduced the word. There were several of these in Egypt's history: the Nubians, the Hyksos, etc. When the first Asiatics came into Egypt is not known, but we do begin to see it in Egyptian art around the time of Abraham.
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    Evidence for the Book of Abraham

    That scripture speaks of the descendants of Ham moving into Egypt. I believe that did happen. A light-skinned people moved into lower Egypt, and began to rule it. Ham is a descendant of Noah per the Bible. That seems to tie that story to post Noahic-flood events. You disagree?
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    Evidence for the Book of Abraham

    The Sahara did have some huge lakes, but imho those preceded the time of Noah by a few thousand years. I interpret that scripture to mean that the Nile was in a state of spring flood, and the agricultural land was temporarily under water when Egyptus "discovered" the land. Didn't the Lehites "discover" their promised land? Yet, imho, the Americas were already well peopled. Same principle for how Columbus "discovered" the Americas. It certainly falls within the scope of our language usage even if Egypt already had people in it when the descendants of Ham moved there. In short I don't consider this to be evidence to support the Book of Abraham. However, the period when those lakes dried up was a period when droughts become more severe in Egypt, and we are seeing the tail end of that in 2000 BC - 4000 YBP - in the story of Joseph.
  13. I have my doubts about whether Cannabis will remove amyloid plaques, but it may block their formation. If I were a patient I would take a medical study into a doctor to try to convince them of the efficacy of the treatment, because if I were a doctor I would want to see at least one long term study to start getting people's hopes up. Vitamin D from a little daily sun, and a few other things I have mentioned on this forum I would certainly recommend.
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    President Nelson and "Getting our own planet."

    Matthew 19:28 28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the aregeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, bjudging the twelve tribes of Israel. I would say judging the twelve tribes of Israel qualifies as "presiding." Does that make it our "own planet?" I don't see us as running off to be our "own god." Those who preside will always do so as one.
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    Hi, I'm new… …and a topic 😉

    Welcome to the forum. Well, it seems those factors disqualify you then.... Intelligence does not "recycle" but lives on in spirit. I believe all spirit has a form of intelligence. Not all intelligences will receive salvation, because some will not accept Christ. Does that matter? It is just truth. Some will go onto become sons of Satan like those spirits Christ sent out of men and who went into the swine. They came from somewhere. Aren't we taught they rejected the plan of our Savior? I don't concern myself about other beliefs on what will happen to the sons of perdition. That is not terribly material to our own salvation and exaltation. I am not obedient because I fear of becoming a son of perdition. I am obedient out of love and respect for my Savior and fellow man. resurrection is universal for those who have lived on this earth. Salvation is not. In this I seem to be in somewhat of disagreement with some. Christ will not save those who never accept Him - even when they see Him at the last judgment. D&C teaches that Satan has the power to destroy body and soul. However, he does not have the power to destroy spirit. Sons of perdition will remain spirit - I am not positive what you mean by "impersonal intelligence." They cannot come back into this world in human form - everyone gets that chance once per Hebrews. Whether they can inherit another life on another world is beyond my current knowledge. If they never accept the Savior even at the last judgement, I believe they are not prone to accept the gospel plan for the next world - indeed, that may be the deciding factor of the pre-existence of the next world. However, whether they are locked out forever, I have to say I am not sure. If they concede to the plan at some point, perhaps they may be able to enter back into eternal lives. I am not sure. That veil is not totally lifted. Thanks for an interesting discussion.