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  1. I'm not sure i can trust Moses 6 and 7, it talks about men living over eight hundred years and the spirit of God descending out of heaven and voices from heaven talking to Enoch, is this the type of hyperbole we shouldn't trust because it wasn't recorded by professional historiographers or should we take the scripture as accurate and "God breathed"?
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    Mike Pence

    Mike Pence's policy on not eating alone with another woman is genius in the face of the #metoo movement. He was attacked as being a sexist for this policy when he was just trying to protect himself and his marriage.
  3. It's fair to think that in the future manuscripts may be discovered supporting the book of Enoch and Joseph's prophecy. Something similar to the dead sea scrolls.
  4. I thought the book thought to be complete by the Ethiopians would be the most accurate and complete. Do you think the book referenced by Joseph is of ancient origin or to be revealed in the future?
  5. Interesting take on Gen 10:25, i had never noticed that line before thank you.
  6. So it is to be revealed in the future.... i was thinking that it was the traditional Ethiopic book of Enoch that already exists.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    You say there is a great apostasy, I am looking for evidence of that. I have evidence of a succession of churches back to Jesus in the Catholic and Orthodox churches, you are telling me that doesn't matter, your testimony trumps historical documentation.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    We can compare what Christian churches are teaching today in light of the Bible. The nature of God, Jesus, his gospel, baptism, justification, salvation, caring for the weak, poor, widows, orphans etc.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    I can't say for sure that the "authority" has not been corrupted over time, just like you can't say for sure that it has.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    That is a very fair analysis, there are quite a few books in the Catholic bible that don't exist in the current LDS KJV bible. And I agree that there are "missing books" mentioned in the Bible, but the overall message of the Fall and redemption by Christ is supported by manuscripts in which the message is consistent. I love that the LDS use the KJV.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    We know that there were many NT churches created after the day of Pentacost, on that day Peter was there with 120 of Christ's disciples when the Holy Ghost came upon them. Acts 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) 16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. These disciples were from all over the old world: Acts 2: 9 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. Then later in acts 2:41 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. So here you have the beginning of the "church". These disciples then went on to teach and baptize with authority all over the Old world.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    So the original apostles were not baptizing and laying on of hands? I thought that was how priesthood was passed on, that's how my father did it for me. There simply isn't any manuscript evidence, that the message of the Bible has been altered in any significant way. We have tens of thousands of manuscripts that support the Biblical narrative.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    If remnants of the LDS church were murdered, would the Mormon church be in remnants, or would your "truth" survive? You can claim whatever you want, i'm just pointing out that the Catholics and Orthodox churches have survived from the days of the Apostles, documented lineage. New world church was wiped out..... why would Jesus have said Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. It seems like the gates of hell prevailed against the New world church.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    Since we can trace the Catholic church and Orthodox church back to the Apostles, it seems like the LDS claim of "total Apostasy" is without evidence. Is there any evidence that shows these church's line of authority is erroneous?
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    I find it very interesting how the LDS claim that New World church only lasted for 400 years after Christ, then completely disappeared (except for the 3 nephites). The Old World Christian church survived. You are correct that the Catholics and Orthodox faiths claim direct lineage to the NT apostles, and from that there are literally billions of worldwide Christians coming from these roots. Jane, I am asking questions regarding the LDS faith in a respectful manner, I was raised LDS, In my short lifetime I can point out several signifcant changes the current LDS sect of Mormonism has adopted. Are you suggesting that the LDS faith hasn't altered it's doctrine?
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    I will accept BOM scripture as evidence for your claim.
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    Since Christ set up both churches (new world and old world), gave them the "authority", gave them a prophet.... what did he get wrong that led to this "hot mess"?
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    Both the new world and old world happened around the same time? Is there any evidence that supports your claim?
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    Who was given authority over the gentiles?
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    Great apostasy in the New World Too?

    Was the New World church set up with apostles, prophets, the 70, bishops etc like the current LDS church? What was missing when you say the full gospel?
  21. I was raised LDS, had never been to other churches. The first time my wife took me to a local church here in the south I was blown away! Talk about culture shock. The preachers taught with passion, they actually opened the Bible, and taught from the Bible, and there was some hand waving and dancing during worship. Wow!!!! Amens and clapping in the "chapel"......total shock to me! So I know what you mean Papa when you say a breath of fresh air.
  22. I read that story yesterday, Utah is a very nice state!
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    #Never Again

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/21/shame-you-florida-shooting-survivors-confront-lawmakers-capitol-tallahassee/358264002/ Another tragic school shooting, so sad..... I'm looking for honest, ideas or solutions as how to prevent this tragedy from happening again or is this going to be the new norm?
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    #Never Again

    Many democrats take money from the NRA too.
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