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  1. snowflake

    Evolution

    I think those creatures would probably fall into the "creeping things" category? [25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
  2. snowflake

    Evolution

    The only thing the fossil record can truly tell us is that a bunch of animals got buried.....the bible tells us it was by a huge flood (Genesis 7). The fossil record makes perfect sense, but only if there was a global flood. Genesis 7: [17] And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. Remember the global flood lasted a year. I'm not sure why such an intelligent man as yourself would struggle reading Genesis 1. Try reading it as literal days like it says, morning, and evening......throw all of your pre-conceived ideas out. Just read it for what it say and don't force your erroneous "scientific" ideas into the text. I'm just saying that you should hold scripture as more true than your science, it very well could be incorrect.
  3. snowflake

    Evolution

    There is zero textual support for the JST, not a single manuscript of the tens of thousands that exist, support the JST. So God gave us his creation story, and you find it irrelevant....
  4. snowflake

    Evolution

    I would disagree with you on no death before the fall...you are correct that Genesis does not say anything died prior to the fall. However, the first death in the bible is after then fall when in Genesis 3:21 God skins animals to clothe Adam and Eve (and their sin). But lets look at genesis 1 and compare that with Darwinian evolution. God creates all the plants on day 3, birds and fish day 5, beasts of the earth, creeping things and man on day 6. All created differently and distinct, male and female. Morning and evening clearly mentioned each day. This simply does not jive with Darwinian evolution.
  5. snowflake

    Evolution

    Evolution is incompatible with the scriptures, no death before the fall would be one specific.
  6. snowflake

    Evolution

    Ok, i was a believer in your religion as well for quite some time. What's your take on the abiogenesis problem?
  7. snowflake

    Evolution

    This is the classic "escape hatch" answer you get from most biologists. Well....we don't really know how that happened but we know that it DID Happen....since we are here and exist it has to have happened. Pure religious fantasy..... and if you believe that it happened that is fine.....but don't call it science. Do you really believe that a single cell organism with enough time was capable of evolving into the human race?
  8. snowflake

    Evolution

    ? please explain....and thank you for you answers.. you seem very honest with me and i appreciate that!
  9. snowflake

    Evolution

    For a genetic mutation to be passed on to the next generation and introduced into a population, the individual with that specific genetic mutation would have to reproduce with another individual who has that specific mutation as well correct? Then the offspring would have to survive, grow to maturity and find another individual whose parents had developed the same mutation and that mutation would need to be beneficial to the individual to influence the gene pool in a population. Am I understanding this correctly? It seems to me that natural selection actually leads to the elimination of these types of genetic mutations and not encourage them.
  10. snowflake

    Evolution

    Wow....quite a rant there. Hovind's biggest rejection of evolution is based on his rigid belief in the bible as an accurate God breathed text. And I will admit that much of my rejection of evolution is based on this as well, I see the theory of evolution as a direct attack on the book of Genesis. And in Genesis we have many events that nobody saw......it is a religous belief that the text and events are correct, true and accurate. That being said, much of what is being discussed in this thread is about events that took place in the past, that nobody has been able to see. If genetic mutation as the only way to introduce new genetic material into a population, it's a pretty weak explination for the amazing diversity we see. I find this explination on par with my religous faith. How can a genetic mutation explain the development of a circulatory system? Oh yes.....I forgot......billions of years......it takes a lot of faith to believe in that. How did the genetic code get started? The scientific explination for this is completely based on faith as well.
  11. snowflake

    Evolution

    Here is a great article by a mathematician I think you would enjoy Clark....katherine the great too! http://math.utep.edu/Faculty/sewell/articles/mathint.html
  12. snowflake

    Evolution

    Please explain this mechanism of evolution.....is it survival of the fittest or genetic mutation?....or something else? I was always taught these were the mechanisms. I just find it incredible that there are no sufficient mathematical models to explain the rise of life and Darwinian evolution...or am in incorrect?
  13. snowflake

    Evolution

    It can't tell you if it reproduced, it can't tell you if it relocated from somewhere, and no you are incorrect, tooth shape gives you zero information on what the diet of an organism was....for example....look at my wife's grill.........is she a vegan, or on the adkin's diet .....all of this is speculation no?
  14. snowflake

    Evolution

    Stephen C Meyer, David Burlinski, here is a group of scientists who don't believe in Darwinian evolution. https://evolutionnews.org/author/pnelson/
  15. snowflake

    Evolution

    You embrace this theory as fact.....do you take the theory to the end and come to the conclusion that there is no God? If not.....why?
  16. snowflake

    Evolution

    Now you have a lot of faith......you mean from a fossil you can tell what somebody ate? You can tell how they walked around? Were they married, did they have children? All i'm saying is that you have a lot of faith....not a lot of evidence for your theory. Your theory which is embraced by "all the scientists" also says that there is no God.....are you willing to embrace this too?.....Because all the scientists say so.
  17. snowflake

    Evolution

    What is the main driving force in the theory of evolution? At university i was taught it was survival of the fittest....turns out that is not the mechanism at all....it is genetic mutation. I just don't see how genetic mutation can lead to the diversity of life we see to day. And how do we get past the abiogenesis problem?
  18. snowflake

    Evolution

    I don't deny that micro evolution occurs, tiny differences in the shape of the wing? This is evidence against evolution....200 generations later and you still have........fruit flies.
  19. snowflake

    Evolution

    I would disagree, you have just been told that story literally hundreds of times throughout your education, probably started in kindergarten. There is plenty of evidence that support a young earth.
  20. snowflake

    Evolution

    The evidence for evolution is pretty much pie in the sky nonsense according to many leading scientists. Sure we see small micro variations among populations but no truly beneficial mutations that lead to differing species. The mechanism itself is woefully inadequate to explain the diversity of life. The mechanism simply cannot create no information which is why breeding fruit flies for literally thousands of generations still produce fruit flies. Now, just because you have been indoctrinated into the evolution lie since kindergarten does not make it true or science. Please share how we can watch evolution happening in the lab.
  21. snowflake

    Does being LDS change our DNA

    Maybe that's the "white and delightesome" part in the BOM? 2 Nephi 30:6 (1830 edition, italics added): "...they shall be a white and a delightsome people."
  22. snowflake

    Evolution

    You seem to be convinced that evolution is a "scientific fact".....why? I would start there.......I've come to the conclusion it is more of a religion that science.
  23. Way to many hypothetical questions here. If we could just find a single shred of textual support for the BOM we would have something to work with, anything pre Joseph.
  24. snowflake

    Stirred up with Hatred

    MAGA!!!!
  25. snowflake

    Environmental responsibility

    Why would it matter if you toss your carbon based carton of OJ into the recycling bin or into the trash heap? Which is truly "better" for the environment? I'm not saying i know the answer here but think about this. Where I live we have two different fleets of "trash trucks", one for trash and one for recycling. So in the wisdom of going green, my city has purchased an extra fleet of trucks running the exact same trash route to pick up the recyclables. How green is buying an extra fleet of trucks? Running that evil diesel fuel through them to pick up your OJ container? Also, if we are looking for a way to reduce carbon in the atmosphere, why not bury all the carbon based debris which takes about 100 years to biodegrade instead of wasting energy on buying trucks and fuel for recycling? Atmospheric CO2 is plant food, so burying paper products is a great way to "dump" carbon or trap carbon out of the atmosphere. Thoughts?
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