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  1. Agreed, this whole somewhat silly conversation about tea, coffee, iced tea, caffeine free iced coffee etc...etc.. seems so legalistic and dare I say ...like the Pharisees. Silly arguing about what one can put in their body when we are told in Mark 7:15 nothing you put in your body can defile you. 15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
  2. Exactly Nehor, and that's the reason we have thousands of different "diet plans" no Doctor or nutritionist agrees with the other. They'll tell you don't eat eggs there is to much cholesterol, the other ones say that eggs are a "superfood"....LOL.
  3. No, just to be precise section 89 talks quite a bit about the consumption of meat.
  4. That is funny! If you take the scriptures at value there is no evidence Jesus married or had children. Maybe your parents pulled a Liz Warren on you!
  5. Are there any documents pre 1800's of the BOM to compare to the current BOM? I thought that no documents were available before this time.....meaning you can't really do textual criticism on the BOM?
  6. In the picture they're drinking root beer for crying out loud🤣
  7. LOL, not only voluntarily go but pay big bucks to go. I went for a day 4 years ago and swore never to return, long lines, hotter than the flames of hades, pay to park, $15 for kids lunches, the rides suck....absolute torture.....Bush gardens is way better....plus free beer!
  8. Thanks for your response Robert, any other examples like this you can point to in scripture?
  9. Mark 9: [38] And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.[39] But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. This example of a Christ follower who was not following the Apostles.....huh?!?. He clearly has the power of Christ for he is casting out devils in Jesus' name. I'm not sure what to think about this passage. Evidence for a different denomination? Thoughts? Praise be to God for his Word!
  10. I think that is probably a pretty fair statement. If you are going to worship a Man/God, I do think you should worship one who predicted his own death and then rose from the grave.
  11. The Witnesses absolutely believe in continuing revelation, they say that "spiritual light is still increasing"....this way like the LDS, any outdated, taboo, or erroneous prophecies can be corrected or amended without losing face. It's really quite clever.
  12. I think you are correct with Charles Russel, Joseph Rutheford, Joseph Smith Jr., Suffner, Namelka, there is a term that is used to describe the groups that follow these men. John Calvin not so much.
  13. Life begins and conception, a complete genome is identifiable. The more you study the issue of abortion, and procedures physicians do to human life, the more disgusted you should be with it.
  14. With continuing revelation anything goes, anything can be "revealed" as truth. Pray about it, get a feeling and there you go, truth revealed. And that's how groups end up with a Suffner, Christopher Namelka, or Joseph Smith Jr.
  15. Well the economy certainly is, unemployment is way down especially for women, African Americans and Latinos.....that's good right?
  16. Are you tired of DJT winning?
  17. Just do what the brethren tell you my friend.....they won't lead you astray, revelation trumps all scripture. Beer, coffee, wine are no-no's.......medical marijuana, prescription opiates, energy drinks, and meat in the summer is an a-okay.
  18. For such a legalistic group (COJCOLDS) I find it very perplexing as to why the group doesn't follow it's own Prophet's teachings. When you read section 89, wine is allowed if produced by the saints for their sacrament....today that is taboo. Mild barley drinks (beer) are allowed....today that is taboo. Meat should be eaten sparingly and in the winter......taboo.....eat as much as you want whenever. The WOW is not a commandment or constraint according to the text but a principle with a promise....try drinking a coffee at your next LDS function (or be really rebellious and drink a near beer) and see what happens. The church doesn't even follow the teachings of Joseph's D&C section 89...... I remember as a kid my Dad drinking near beer and my father getting into a long Discussion with the bishop about the wording of section 89.....Dad din't drink near beer after the Bishop corrected his error.....section 89 is not up for different interpretations if you want to go to the temple.
  19. So you ate meat in the summer...a nice big a$$ rib-eye....sounds delicious, so tell me why violating the WOW that way is allowed but having a cold barley beverage (beer) to wash it down would be grounds for losing a temple recommend? The language of D&C 89 forbids the meat and allows the beer.
  20. Agreed...no pork documentation....yet he picked grain and ate it on the Sabbath....which was forbidden.
  21. I use Jesus to get through it all.... Jesus, all of his Apostles....all of ancient Israel.....and most of the early LDS leaders used wine...the Bible says it is allowed, and i'm not sure if it is forbidden in the BOM or not.... Jesus has told us Matthew 15: [11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
  22. I'm not sure where in the scriptures all of these things being discussed are forbidden, other than D&C 89.....The bible says not to be a drunkard but does not for bid alcohol....is there anywhere in the BOM or other scriptures where alcohol is forbidden?.... Also D&C 89 allows for wine and mild barley drinks (beer)...if you want to really follow the scriptures.
  23. Yes, I would just keep on drinking LOL! How the LDS got by in the old west without whiskey is truly a miracle!...wait.....they did use whiskey.....never mind.
  24. Well if one is honest with the differences between LDS Christians and Creedal Christians (and I think you are very fair and honest about the differences Jane_Doe) you have a different Gods, and a different Jesus.....
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