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  1. It seems to me that if the current LDS church claims it has been restored, the Apostles would be direct witnesses of Christ, just like the NT church.
  2. Any idea how this regression of gods got started? Who was the first god? Does the church know of any other gods other than Heavenly Father?
  3. Now what must one do to be able to have an eternal family. And what about the "bad kids" that don't make the cut? Where do they go?
  4. Could someone please explain to me exactly how the LDS concept of "eternal families" is supposed to work. Does it work like families here on earth where you have kids and then they eventually marry off and leave you to create their own families? Or will you always be with your parents. Are there any empty nester "gods" whose families left to create their own universes? What about spirit babies too, how are those "organized/created"?
  5. I just can't agree with you that what Adam and Eve did was right. I think they knew it was wrong before hand. God told Adam specifically in Genesis 2:17 for him not to eat the fruit or they would die. God never says if you eat this fruit you will become wise, God never says you will know good and evil, God never says you will become as gods, these were all lies from the serpent. 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. The serpent lied and enticed them 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
  6. I'm not sure if you could be given any kind of decision without the knowledge before hand which choice was "right" and which choice was "wrong". God said don't eat this fruit, by disobeying God they made a choice (wrong choice). I would say that they would have had to have a knowledge of right and wrong before they ate the fruit simply because they were given a choice to disobey God or not. The LDS take seems to be that they had no say in the act whatsoever, or no free will to decide to eat it or not. Is that correct?
  7. So it was a good thing to disobey God's commandment and eat of the forbidden fruit? Because of that action, sin and death entered into the world, the world came under a "curse" because of the fall. I think you would be on a very slippery slope every saying that disobeying God is a good thing. I have to admit that I never thought about the fall the way your take is, in that they didn't know good from evil until they ate the fruit. What's the LDS take on how long they were in the garden before the fall? Biblically speaking we have no idea how long they were in the garden until they ate the forbidden fruit.
  8. Jesus is speaking in Rev 21:7, I have no problem with Jesus being God and I am his adopted son, absolutely. I will admit that I don't completely understand why the fall was a good thing according to the LDS. All of Christianity view it as a bad thing. Are you suggesting that Adam and Eve didn't know right from wrong (or good from evil) before the fall?
  9. The LDS temple of the New Covenant is not biblical, again, made up by Joseph and not something that was restored from the NT church.
  10. Not becoming a God, that was promoted by Joseph. That is also the first lie in the bible, Genesis 3: 4-5 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Other than becoming a "god" I would agree with most of your statement above.
  11. So we believe in the same heaven? I thought that the EV's didn't have anything to look forward to.
  12. Hebrews explains that Jesus is the Sacrifice, he does away for the need of the sin offerings done in the temple and sets up a new covenant vs 9 and 10. The temple is done away with because we have Jesus as the sacrifice, it is finished, he is the Great high priest forever. No more need for temples. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
  13. Start with Revelation chapter 21 and 22, there will be a new heaven and earth and a holy city of Jerusalem, we will be serving God, as to what that means I do not know, but we will be with him. A chapter about our resurrected bodies is 1 Corinthians 15: 35-58. Revelation 7:13-17. Matthew 22: 29-33. Here are a few scriptures to get you started. Hope this helps.
  14. Wow, JHLPROF, where do you come up with this stuff? If this is your understanding of heaven, is not consistent with the bible whatsoever.
  15. Biblically speaking the NT church was not involved in any form of temple ordinances. Some of the Apostles were teaching at the Jewish temple but they were not doing anything whatsoever resembles current LDS temple ordinances. Again, it appears that Joseph just made the temple ordinances up after joining the Masons, which is fine, but don't claim it as a "restoration" of the NT church practices.