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  1. snowflake

    Attending Church

    Oh......I think you're just going to have to suck it up and deal brother!
  2. snowflake

    Attending Church

    Having been raised LDS, I know the LDS church believes in Jesus and the Bible. IMO, Jesus and the Bible are not the top priority in your church, I would list the LDS top priorities as something like........ family, church, prophet, priesthood, the gospel, BOM......then the Bible and Jesus. Important......but not the most important. All i'm saying is that other churches put Jesus as top priority.
  3. snowflake

    Attending Church

    Try going to a church whose focus is on the Bible and Jesus........
  4. snowflake

    The conception of Adam's children

    Roman's 5:12 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
  5. From what i understand in Mormon theology we were "intelligences" before we became "spirits", and that once one becomes a spirit they are a "god" or "baby god"? How does that work with Heavenly Father and Mother creating spirits?
  6. Could you elaborate on how in Mormon theology the universe creates Gods please? You are implying the universe was around first.?.
  7. snowflake

    Bees understand the concept of zero

    Taxpayer money being wasted on more worthless "science". I'm sure they are applying for another grant so they can "continue to research and understand the bees math skills"....
  8. I'm letting the text speak for itself. Where in scripture do you find support for matter being eternal and Jesus "organizing" it?
  9. Very interesting take....haven't heard explained that way before..... I appreciate that. There is also another way to explain it, a much more biblical explanation. God is spirit and exists outside our time-space domain....in other words this world we live in is a shadow of "reality" or a shadow of the "spirit realm". Like you said above, Jesus can appear out of nowhere, as well as angels,.......they have the ability to enter and leave our time-space domain at will. The lds Heavenly Father is stuck in the same length X width X height X time domain as all other humans......with superior technology he can perform miracles. The God of the Bible exists outside of this domain without a body of flesh and bone.
  10. Because all scholars don't agree with your take....ex-nihilo can be supported by the text itself too. I absolutely agree that we should allow the text to speak for itself. Heb 11:3 [3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Col 1 [16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: John 1:3 [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Why would I need a "scholar" to explain these verses to me?.......we just disagree Robert.
  11. Your take (or the LDS take) on creation seems to have borrowed heavily from the Greek version as well, the "Chaos"....deities organizing matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)
  12. If God has a body of flesh and bones (as Jesus) and lives in the natural universe, how do they travel to Kolob? He must obey all the physical rules of the universe....and what about all those miracles, if Jesus is subject to the natural law how did he walk on water?
  13. Are you saying that the almighty God is subject to the Law of Conservation of Mass!?! He must submit to it?!? Sorry my friend I believe he created the laws along with all the matter in the universe.
  14. All of these scriptures seem to point to an ex-nihilo creation. Here is some more for the LDS book of Moses....to me it really sounds like Joseph just did his own editing of Genesis. 1 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto Moses, saying: Behold, I reveal unto you concerning this heaven, and this earth; write the words which I speak. I am the Beginning and the End, the Almighty God; by mine Only Begotten I created these things; yea, in the beginning I created the heaven, and the earth upon which thou standest. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and I caused darkness to come up upon the face of the deep; and my Spirit moved upon the face of the water; for I am God. 3 And I, God, said: Let there be light; and there was light.
  15. Sure....absolutely God created me....not sure what you mean by pre-existed......as an intelligence?.....as a spiritual offspring of heavenly father and mother?....I don't think the LDS take on this is very clear...what were the intelligences? What were you before you were a spirit baby? How did heavenly father and mother "create" spirit babies?.....it is a lot of spirits!?!?