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  1. I think these generic names can be confusing. If you type TheChurchofJesusChrist.org instead of ChurchofJesusChrist.org you will end up at the Bickertonite website. We really need a short name that uniquely identifies the Church. At least with the Bickertonites, it is the the name of their church.
  2. The majority of the WoW is not enforced. All of the portions of the WoW that are enforced in temple recommend interviews today were at one time allowed without consequence. As late as the 1980's my grandmother was a temple recommend holding coffee drinker. She drank coffee for almost her whole life and it wasn't until the mid 1980's that she was pressured to switch to diet Pepsi. She died less than 10 years later. There are a lot of places in the world where coffee and tea (and alcohol) are a large part of the diet and culture. I found that many investigators in Japan lost interest in our message after hearing about the WoW. All it would take would be a letter going out clarifying which parts of the WoW are required to pass the temple recommend and baptism interviews. With all of the recent changes and announcements that more changes are coming, this is not outside the realm of possibility.
  3. The reason these numbers were not realized is that growth rates have not remained constant. They have dropped off quite a bit. Here are the average annual growth rates for the last several decades based on the official numbers reported at conference: 1980-1989: membership: 5.1% - units (wards+branches): 4.2% 1990-1999: membership: 4.0% - units: 4.1% 2000-2009: membership: 2.5% - units: 1.0% 2010-2017: membership: 1.9% - units: 0.9%
  4. I know you are joking, but when I was young it was commonplace for parents to encourage or even force their children to use their right hand over their left. If they saw their child holding a crayon or toy in their left hand, they would take it and put it in their right. This happened to my younger brother to some extent (not that it did any good). It seems silly now, but there was considerable social pressure to conform and not stand out. No one wanted to be the one with the left handed child. Many in the generation of Elder Oaks grew up with that sort of mindset.
  5. You may have that reversed...
  6. When I was in high school I used to get up at 4:15 AM. I would deliver newspapers and come home and shower to get to seminary by 6:00 AM. I would leave seminary a few minutes early with some others to go to the school for early morning marching band practice. Then school would start at 8:30 AM. After school there were additional band practices, etc. I am not sure how I did it. Just thinking about that I feel I need to take a nap...
  7. It is not clear to me what the change is. You say the first question above is from the limited-use questions and the second one is from the regular temple recommend question list. What was the change? Did the limited-use question match the regular recommend question before? If not what was the limited use question before the change?
  8. According to Dallin H. Oaks only the president of the church can receive revelation to guide the entire church. Maybe there is an exception for apostles who will become the president later. ETA: emphasis
  9. If you listen to the short promo on that page you will see that it is indeed the correct story. I thought the same thing when I first followed the link.
  10. About 10 years ago my wife and I were teaching the 7 year old primary class. We were told by a member of the bishopric to avoid talking too much about baptism in our class. There was one child whose father was excommunicated for apostasy. I heard that he claimed to receive a revelation and refused to renounce it. (They didn't really go into any detail about this.) I am not sure about the status of his wife. Because of this the 7 year old was not allowed to be baptized when she turned 8. So in order to not have her feel to bad about this we were not to make a big deal about baptism in the class.
  11. Sounds like we need to star packing the handcarts for the trip back to Missouri...
  12. I would think that anyone who believes in the Book of Mormon would have claim to the name "Mormon." For some reason the church doesn't want any other church to be called Mormon. But at the same time they don't want to be called Mormon either. I'm not sure the church can claim control of how the term is used when they are rejecting it at the same time.
  13. I agree that onion rings on a burger are quite tasty. At Apollo Burger in Utah you can get them if you order the Texas Bacon Cheeseburger (which I order every time I go there.) In N Out does offer grilled onions, which is almost as good as onion rings IMHO. The things I like about In N Out are the toasted bun, fresh lettuce and tomato and the grilled onions. The staff is always friendly and it is also fairly inexpensive compared to the other options. The fries are below average.
  14. I remember reading that talk back in the 1980s when I was at BYU but at the time I certainly did not interpret it to mean that the previously taught reasons for the ban had been repudiated (curse of Cain, etc.) That thought had never entered my mind until the church statement in 2012. I remember telling my wife about it at the time and she was very surprised and had never heard of it either. Evidently even a long serving religion professor at BYU hadn't heard of it either. If the church intended to disavow those theories in 1978 they did an extremely poor job communicating it.
  15. Can you tell me when these theories about the priesthood ban were repudiated? The first I heard of it was in February of 2012 when the Church issued a press release in response to the Washington Post article where Dr. Bott made his statements. Then the priesthood essay was released in December of 2013. Was there an official statement made prior to those that was issued to the general public?
  16. You can listen to her tell her story in her own words on the Tribune podcast. The interview is not long (about 20 minutes) and she sounds like any other Mormon mom you would find in your average ward. https://soundcloud.com/mormonland/breastfeeding-mother-speaks-out-in-first-audio-interview-since-being-denied-a-temple-recommend-episode-42
  17. This seems to be the real issue that a lot of posters seem to have with this woman. Most don't seem to care about the breast feeding. The fact that she wouldn't submit to authority and stop breast feeding seems to bother some. But the real push back that I am seeing is that she spoke out about all of this in public. That is the real taboo here - openly criticizing a leader. If she criticizes a leader that is seen as evidence that she is in the wrong. This is what I don't understand. I don't think it is wrong to speak out when you feel you have been treated unfairly.
  18. Fortunately for us the sun shines quite a bit, and wind farms are built in windy areas. I am not saying we can convert to 100% renewable energy any time soon, but we can and are expanding the usage of renewable energy. We are certainly not limited to a "tiny fraction" of our power needs. I understand that we need to be realistic and there are challenges getting to high percentages of our power coming from renewable sources, but I believe we are still in the "low hanging fruit" stage. To go beyond that we will need to be able to store energy. There are a number of ways to do this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_energy_storage I think an interesting option is to use excess solar energy to create hydrogen during the day. This can be used in hydrogen fuel cells to generate electricity when needed or used to power hydrogen automobiles.
  19. Why is solar and wind limited to a tiny fraction of our power needs? Do you have a number in mind? In April of this year solar and wind power accounted for over 30% of electric power generation in Germany. Solar power is booming in China. I know there are hurdles to get past but I believe that renewable energy sources can become a significant part of the world's energy production. I agree that nuclear power should be considered, but current public opinion makes that very difficult. I see hydrogen as more of a battery technology, which can be important as well. I agree that we should not put too much of a burden on the developing world. But I think renewable energy can work out very well for them in a lot of situations. Small, inexpensive solar panels can provide single homes with light and other basic needs where there is no electric grid available.
  20. I would imagine that a wet t-shirt and shorts could end up being a lot more revealing than a normal swimming suit. Swimming suits are designed to get wet and still keep things covered. T-shirts are certainly not designed to do that.
  21. If you want to argue that these things are not literal, that is fine. But I don't know that it fits very well in a thread about DNA which is inherently about science and reality.
  22. The land bridge was swallowed by the sea about 11,000 years ago. Not only would this have been before the flood, but before Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden as well. The timing just doesn't seem to work out.
  23. How did these Native Americans get to America? When did they arrive?
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