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  1. "This is my official announcement and declaration that I believe heterosexuality and homosexuality are both natural and neither is sinful." Compare with Mosiah 3:19 Mosiah 3:19 "For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." If she accepts that passage than it does not matter whether something is NATURAL or not. To steal another man's property is natural. To kill out of jealousy is natural. Marriage and monogamy are really not that natural. Christ demands that we put off our natural impulses and live within his standards. Simple sexual orientation is not a sin. It is what one does with it that can be a sin.
  2. This is new information. That changes alot
  3. Amen to that. If she wrote "I am LDS and I support gay rights" nothing would have happened in my opinion. Her Facebook post is filled with nonsense and is an attack not only on the church but the scriptures themselves.
  4. Climate change, war, economic depression, and natural disasters will add to the upside of religion in the future. It is easy to be nonreligious when things are going well for a person. When death and disaster are a constant threat, it forces people to think about more serious things. When the grim reaper is standing before a person, they start really questioning the meaning of life and hoping there is something beyond their death.
  5. I don't use Facebook for many reasons and this is one of them. I believe people should be able to say whatever they want online and not have it affect their employment unless they are using their employment as part of getting a following or some sort of advantage. When one is off the clock they are off the clock. A cop should be able to make as many racist statements as he wants online and not affect his or her employment as long as they don't identify themselves as a cop. What they do once they show up to work is what should matter. As for this teacher, I have questions like was she using her position as a platform to promote her posts? Was she using the Church or her membership of the Church as a platform to promote her posts? It is one thing for a person to say "I support gay rights" and quite different to say "As an LDS member, I support gay rights and homosexuality is not sinful and the Church needs to change." Being gay by itself is not sinful just as being a heterosexual is not sinful. Ones actions that go beyond that baseline however determine whether one commits sin or not. Even being sexually attracted to young children is not sinful by itself. But move beyond that baseline and watch out;.
  6. Worldwide the number of religious people is still increasing. Non-religious populations tend to die out over time because they either don't have a high enough birthrate or they are overcome by religious people taking over. In Europe the weak secular Europeans are going to be replaced by the Muslims. In America, the weak secular Americans will be taken over by religious immigrants over time.
  7. Perhaps some it has to do with the fact that there is really not a whole lot new for the antis to write about. How many books does one need to rehash the same topics over and over again? That CES letter that some people talk about has nothing new or interesting in it. It just the same stuff others have made over decades of time that is repackaged with a new bow.
  8. Have not heard anything but perhaps the San Andreas is about to go or even worse, Kim Jong Un has some "gifts" as he calls them for the people of California.
  9. Yes and the Supreme Court was wrong. I bet if the court today was to take up the issue, it would be different. I also think that when that occurred, it would have been harder for LDS or others to resist. Today there are a lot more guns and people distrust the government a lot more. Plus I think people might tend to get more angry if they are forced to something that they would view as sinful rather than just being prevented to do some sort of practice. Restricting a Muslim or a Jew for example that they can't wear certain religious attire in certain places is probably not going to anger and offend them as nearly as much as forcing them to accept Jesus as their savior.
  10. At least in the USA this will not happen as long as the First Amendment is around. Any attempt to mess with the First Amendment will cause the citizens to take use of the Second Amendment to protect the First. You would see a Syria style civil war before the government could force religions to do things against their doctrinal beliefs. I am extremely confident that if the government was to try and force LDS Temples to accept gay couples in those sealing rooms the gay couple would have to get through the wall of members with AR-15 and AK-47 who are there to protect the temple.
  11. This is how I have come to see this issue. I see sins to be be like felonies while transgressions are misdemeanors. Both are crimes but one crime is much worse than the other. Both involve a violation of counsel, commandment, or law of God and both have a consequence. The consequences of sin are much worse. They involve the real possibility of ones eternal salvation being at risk. A transgression may be bad but it by itself will not cause a person to be eternally damned. Modern day transgressions would be not doing home teaching or not having family home evening. The Word of Wisdom contains both. It is a transgression of the Word of Wisdom to eat too much meat or not eat the right foods. If one violates this portion of the word of wisdom, their eternal salvation is not at issue BUT there are still consequences for not following it like having poor health like an increased risk of heart disease. Other violations of the Word of Wisdom are above transgressions but are sins because they directly threaten the salvation of the individual. if one uses alcohol, they lose their temple recommend or are not able to obtain one. This can affect their eternal salvation. Placed in the Adam and Eve story. They were told not to eat of the fruit. God told them if they did they would die. That was the consequence. God did not say they would be eternally damned but that they would die. Ok no big deal. That was part of the plan anyway. Their actions open the door to sin entering the world but opening the door itself is not a sin. Sort of like if I open my living room door in summer. Once I do that the bugs and wasps can come in. Adam and Eve transgressed against the command. They suffered the consequence of violating that command but for them it was not the end of the world and in fact their actions allowed them to progress forward after suffering the consequence of the transgression.
  12. If so then all of their children are just part of the allegory. Not even Jesus was real since his genealogy is just part of the allegory. I am sure there is symbolism in the story like Satan being called the serpent but I would not make all of it symbolic.
  13. If a doctrine is true, it does not matter whether it his hurtful. The wicked take the truth to be hard and it cuts them to the center. If we worry more about how people react than the truth, we will deceiving ourselves thinking we are helping people as regardless of the sin, the wicked will take correction to be hard and hurtful. The scriptures declare that God can't look upon sin with the least degree of allowance and that no unclean thing can enter into God's presence. We can and should allow people to have their agency to make choices but we can't endorse, support, sustain wickedness and we can't do it in the name of being kind to someone. If our actions even give a remote hint that ones actions are ok, we will find out at judgement that they are not. We will not want to stand and watch the Lord judge these people who we pacified. Societies views and attitudes may change and think its wonderful and great. None of them will think that way when the Lord acts on this. He is going to be extremely serious on this stuff. If we had even a small sample today we would even now shake at the seriousness of judgement.
  14. To support something means one sustains it. I personally don't have a problem with SSM being legal just as I don't have a problem with prostitution or other things being legal that I believe or wrong. But I will not sustain and support these bad things. So I voted no. I also object to SSM on the grounds that it is wickedness. I really don't get the whole issue of it being apostasy. SSM is not apostasy as adultery, fornication, stealing, murder, and other things are apostasy. It is true the scriptures do not speak about SSM but I have not seen it being an issue at anytime when the scriptures have been written so their is no need for them to mention it. Plus I there is a scripture but I can't remember the reference where it says that there are so many ways that one can sin that it can't numbered. The point is basically is that anything that makes one unclean is sin. Satan inspires man to find new ways to sin that were never even considered 1000 or 3000 years ago. In the not too distant future , virtual reality sex and sex with sexbots or robots may become fairly common. People will justify it just as they justify SSM. Some may even suggest that since the scriptures don't speak about it then it must be ok. It does not matter There is no reason to believe that the writers of the scriptures would endorse such behavior. People will find excuses to justify things they like and support. It has always been that way.
  15. Sin, immoral, wickedness, abomination, or any other word really all speaks to the same thing. Finding nicer words to say perhaps makes for more civil conversations but they don't really change the result. If it perverts the right way of the Lord, it leads to one destination 3 Nephi 28:14-15 They wear stiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and whoredoms, they have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men. O the wise, and the learned, and the rich, that are puffed up in the pride of their hearts, and all those who preach false doctrines, and all those who commit whoredoms, and pervert the right way of the Lord, wo, wo, wo be unto them, saith the Lord God Almighty, for they shall be thrust down to hell!