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  1. https://www.lds.org/ensign/1976/05/scriptural-text-for-visions-added-to-pearl-of-great-price?lang=eng "During the April 3 Saturday afternoon session of conference, President N. Eldon Tanner, first counselor in the First Presidency, read the following statement: (See page 19.) “At a meeting of the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve held in the Salt Lake Temple on March 25, 1976, approval was given to add to the Pearl of Great Price the following two revelations: “First, a vision of the celestial kingdom, given to Joseph Smith the Prophet, in the Kirtland [Ohio] Temple, on January 21, 1836, which deals with the salvation of those who die without a knowledge of the gospel. “And second, a vision given to President Joseph F. Smith in Salt Lake City, Utah, on October 3, 1918, showing the visit of the Lord Jesus Christ in the spirit world and setting forth the doctrine of the redemption of the dead. “It is proposed that we sustain and approve this action and adopt these revelations as part of the standard works of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” The proposal was unanimously accepted..." So was there any similar proposal about the footnotes/JST in specific or the updated scriptures in general? The Bible Dictionary at the very least, included in every quad and Bible, doesn't appear to be considered canon, imo. "This dictionary provides a concise collection of definitions and explanations of Bible topics. It is based primarily on the biblical text, supplemented by information from the other standard works. A variety of doctrinal, cultural, and historical subjects are treated, and a short summary is included for each book of the Bible. Many of the entries draw on the work of Bible scholars and are subject to reevaluation as new research or revelation comes to light. This dictionary is provided to help your study of the scriptures and is not intended as an official statement of Church doctrine or an endorsement of the historical and cultural views set forth." https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bd/introduction.html?lang=eng "Although not the official Bible of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the JSToffers many interesting insights and is an invaluable aid to biblical interpretation and understanding. It is a most fruitful source of useful information for the student of the scriptures. It is likewise a witness for the divine calling and ministry of the Prophet Joseph Smith." https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bd/joseph-smith-translation?lang=eng
  2. I don't remember what happened when sec 138 was originally added to the PoGP. I remember when it happened and buying the new insets to stick in my scriptures still I got one with them printed already.... What was the process of canonizing those? Has it been mentioned in the thread yet? "In 1976] two items of revelation were added. In 1979 these two items were removed from the Pearl of Great Price and placed in the Doctrine and Covenants, where they now appear as sections 137 and 138” (Pearl of Great Price, introductory note)." https://www.lds.org/manual/the-pearl-of-great-price-student-manual/the-pearl-of-great-price?lang=eng
  3. I think the reason I did and would care most about a man having gone on a mission for the full time prior to marriage is that it showed he probably could be very close roommates with someone he hadn't grown up with without going insane. Living with roommates usually where you can take off whenever you care to just isn't even close to marriage. Being locked into a companionship is closer. Everything else that a mission could probably tell me about would also probably be evident over time as I talked to him (whether or not he was committed to his covenants, how comfortable he was with scripture study, how he approached doctrine and history, how comfortable he was with variations on the theme of faithfulness). And given how I have always been aware that a mission doesn't guarantee those attributes and skills I would like to see in my spouse or the spouses of my children and grandchildren, friends, and neighbours, total strangers, at best a mission tells me there is a greater likelihood at seeing such...but in no way should looking for them and other desirables be skipped just because "mission" is present on a resume.
  4. Cathedral bells ring out for President Monson

    Original reason may have been to frighten evil spirits away. Small towns with people spread out and no phones could communicate this way: http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/fcod/fcod08.htm
  5. Church Policy on Harassment, Stalking, etc.

    Honestly, if guys are not to slap women for any reason, I don't believe women should slap men. Defense against physical assault works for both, imo; verbal aggression should not be responded to with violence.
  6. Thomas S Monson cars

    I am impressed.
  7. Thomas S Monson cars

    Value of cars depends on both upfront costs and maintenance. Many years ago someone who worked with or knew someone who worked with the Church's car fleet explained on a board like this one that a choice was made by the Church's car people to buy a more expensive car based on estimated repair and replacement costs (they would be lasting much longer and with less cost for upkeep and repairs than cheaper cars). Unfortunately there was sufficient outcry from some who saw them being driven around they had to turn them in and replace them with cheaper cars. (I trusted the source, but it could be a Mormon folklore being passed around, still useful principle) Remind these members that a cheaper car that has to be replaced every few years because it is no longer reliable or costs too much to fix and has a low tradein value is going to cost more than a car that is three times as expensive but lasts more than three times as long and has fewer repair costs,etc. That is not to say every expensive car is cheaper in the long run than a cheaper car, it just means there is more to calculating costs than the price tag.
  8. Knowing Rod I am pretty certain he only meant he is heart and soul committed to the Gospel, not that such earned his wife such a blessing.
  9. New First Presidency

    Denying taught at all is ridiculous when we have quotes from some of them. Denying they were teaching it as official doctrine, if someone wants to believe that, I have no problem with it, though I believe in most cases they saw themselves as doing so.
  10. "Someone on this board made the unsupported statement that most LDS members think the JST is revelatory in nature..." I think age probably has a lot to do with opinion on this. Those of us who remember when it was not included in the scriptures and some of the commentary on what the RLDS might have done to it might be more cautious in putting it on level with The Book of Mormon.
  11. There are areas where the percentage goes way up though, mostly in Utah, but also elsewhere. In Canada, out of 13 in my son's peer group, I am thinking only 1 didn't go and he was mainly inactive and atheist and only attending when he did because he liked the group or his mom made him. Even the two I thought would be refused due to ADHD were able to go and one at least did quite well (we had moved before the other got back).