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  1. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/06/trauma-is-a-slow-burn-mormons-seek-healing-as-church-eases-anti-lgbt-policy
  2. I wasn’t paying attention, I guess.
  3. When did they start broadcasting the priesthood session?
  4. Someone close to me just got called as a GA, and my first thought was how radically their lives will change. My wife mentioned that he had just been released from his prior calling, and I said, jokingly, that’s because he’s going to be a GA. Not terribly surprised, but it will be interesting where they end up.
  5. Well, that’s certainly an interesting bit to focus on, but I was thinking more about what she said about doctrinal gray areas and the tension between bureaucratic will and revelation. But fair enough.
  6. The CNN article was written by a BYU grad. I don’t like the headline, but the article is quite perceptive.
  7. True. I’ve only said no once. For some reason, you make me think of a deli I went to in my youth.
  8. I had lunch with him once, at least 15 years ago, back when I was a believer.
  9. I’ve known Wade for roughly 25 years. Kind of fun seeing him around again.
  10. I was living in Virginia when the policy change came out. My religious background had not come up much at all at work, so I was surprised at how many people approached me asking for some kind of explanation. All I could do was say I knew as much as they did and disagreed with the policy. One of my coworkers was a gay woman who is a salt-of-the-earth type. Previously, she had told me how she and her spouse always invited the missionaries in when they knocked on her door and even had them over for dinner a few times. When she heard about the policy, she thought it must be a misunderstanding, that the church wouldn't do something like that. I will never forget the shock and sorrow on her face as I explained that she'd understood correctly. If my anecdotal experience is worth anything, people who had either a positive opinion or no opinion about the church suddenly saw the church in a much more negative light.
  11. I'm just saying a lot of people thought it was appalling. I remember having a conversation with Calm in which she helped me understand that it was important to be careful in what I said about the policy, lest I inadvertently encourage despair in someone. I took that to heart, and I'm glad she increased my awareness. But that's a far cry from the notion that people on either side were actively encouraging suicide. I know how I would have felt had I still been a believing member when the policy came out. I'd already been in and out of despair over my sexual orientation for years, and with my history of depression, the policy might have made things much worse for me. Does that mean I think there was malice behind the policy or its critics?
  12. As is the assumption that those of us who were disturbed by the policy were so consumed with anti-Mormon hatred that we encouraged and applauded youth suicide. Anything to get that damned church, right? It should go without saying that one could find the policy appalling without assuming malice on the part of those who came up with it in the first place. Many of us simply thought it ill-considered and poorly implemented, however well-intentioned.
  13. Looks like mental illness was at the heart of this tragic story. From what the PI hired by the parents said, his mental problems became apparent while he was on his mission. https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/02/21/detective-says-he-was-hired-to-find-son-now-accused-of-murdering-his-parents/ Sometimes mental illness becomes apparent after significant stress, so it's not surprising that symptoms he had managed to control might come to the fore on a mission. And, no, I am not 'blaming' the missionary experience, just noting that this kid obviously had some underlying problems.
  14. Yup. It's easy to forget that what you or I think is important may not be important to someone else.
  15. I haven't posted here in months. I'm not taking issue with your approach to testimony, just noting that I've never thought it would require quasi-empirical evidence. In short, I think there's plenty of room in the church for someone who believes/has a testimony without seeing empirical evidence.
  16. I guess I've never understood a testimony to be anything other than a matter of heart and spirit. Clearly, others disagree, as you have reminded me. I hope all is well with you and yours. Life's good in Utah.
  17. People in our ward used to tease him about that. His son Rob told me that Bob had seen a tabloid in the supermarket claiming to have unmasked Deep Throat. Bob read the article, and then said, "Darn, it wasn't me."
  18. I find the Old World "anachronisms" less compelling than the simple fact that there is no good setting for the Book of Mormon peoples in the Americas. None of the proposed locations (Mesoamerica, Heartland, etc.) even approaches plausibility. That said, "we just don't know" is as good an empirical answer as any when it comes to faith. I've never really understood the need to find empirical evidence on which to ground what are essentially matters of the heart and spirit.
  19. Indeed. I've known the Bennetts since I was about 8 years old, and I can't think of a negative thing to say about Bob, his wife, Joyce, or any of their children. Just good, decent people with a great deal of integrity. But Bill Reel ... well, that's another story.
  20. I think you have to distinguish him from the kind of apologists who never concede anything and are willing to die on the most insignificant of hills. Jim isn't that at all, which is why, with some reservations, I have been impressed with his work on these issues. Not that I agree with his conclusions.
  21. More than anything, I told him I thought the tone (which I take as his trying to keep the subject light) often overshadowed his arguments. 12 hours, huh? I like you, and I like Jim (I've known him since he was "Jimmy"), but maybe not enough to invest that much time.
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