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  1. jkwilliams

    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    It says it was an accusation, but then it talks about the church working with the victim, so mixed messages, IMO.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I thought I did meaningfully explain my position, even giving examples. Oh, well. I kind of knew you'd end up with "But it'll never be enough." For whom? That you think my thoughts merit nothing more than "where will it end?" suggests this conversation is a waste of time. Definitely not playing this game, either.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    FWIW, leaks are a lousy way of providing transparency.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    As I said, it's about accountability. You can provide information for accountability that does not involve putting out any information about individuals. Frankly, the idea that transparency is all or nothing is ridiculous and clearly an attempt to shut down discussion.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I've said nothing about leaks. How does that follow from anything I've said?
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I'm not sure how that follows from what I said. I'm not suggesting that the church needs to divulge detailed information about, per your example, a case of sexual abuse. Not sure where you're getting that. As a member, I think it would be helpful to know what the church is doing to better prevent and deal with sexual abuse of children. I'm quite sure the church keeps statistics on this, and publishing those statistics might be a good barometer of how well we are doing as a church. Would anyone's privacy be violated? Not that I can see. I feel the same way about finances. "Unfettered transparency" is a strawman because no one is asking for the church to publish every last detail of its financial operations. Would it be good to know what the church takes in and how it is managing the money? Of course. I've been to countless leadership meetings that have stressed "accountability," but it's always accountability to your priesthood line authority going up; there's no accountability going the other way. Personally, I think some accountability from leaders to those under their stewardship would improve leadership and make the church run more efficiently. I don't find that unreasoned or unreasonable.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    Take finances, for example. Until 1959, the church published an annual report of its income and expenditures, and then stopped doing so. President Hinckley said that how money from donations is spent is a matter between the members who donate and the church, but we as members have no right to see what the church is doing with the funds we donate. I'd like to see at least some reporting of income and expenditures, which would increase accountability to the members who gave the money in the first place. Yes, I understand that the church is predicated on absolute trust and sustaining of church leaders, but keeping the numbers under wraps does nothing to encourage trust. I don't know what the right answer is, but yes, more transparency would be a positive thing.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I haven't seen a lot of calls for "unfettered transparency," just some transparency from the Church. Do members have a right to any information about the Church? Seems to me you're arguing they don't.
  9. jkwilliams

    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    It doesn’t suggest that to me.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I know that. Trust me, I know.
  11. jkwilliams

    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I stand by what I said. That 42 reported cases a year doesn't strike you as sad or upsetting isn't my problem.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    Yikes, as in that's 42 reported cases a year, knowing that the vast majority of these cases are never reported at all. I'm not suggesting the church or its missionaries have a higher rate of abuse than the rest of society, but that seems to be how you are interpreting it.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I wonder how much has changed in 6 years. I don't think we can say one way or the other.
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    As I asked earlier, does anyone know if the mission president is required to report? Is he considered the same kind of ecclesiastical leader as, say, a bishop or stake president?
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    Mormon Leaks document on handling Child Abuse

    I should note that I broke my rule in not talking to Ryan about this board. I asked him about this because I wanted the answer. It's about what I thought it would be.
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