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About jkwilliams

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  1. That seems to be the consensus among those who object to the lesson as given: spending an "inordinate" amount of lesson time on the origins of the ban and why it persisted wouldn't exactly "promote" faith or invite the spirit. Apparently, some people prefer to ignore difficult issues instead of confronting them and possibly leading toward a deeper, more grounded faith.
  2. The people who think this type of discussion is inappropriate for a lesson at church are often the same people who say that any members surprised or shocked by church history are "lazy and intransigent" because they should have dug deeper into church history and doctrine. So, the standard is, "Study on your own so you won't be surprised by anything, but don't do it at church!"
  3. Hurrican Harvey: My Story

    Just thought I'd post a final update on my daughter's situation. The floors and walls are in, and everything is painted. The kitchen and laundry room cabinets have been installed, but they still have to put the doors and drawers in, as they wanted to wait until the countertop was installed, which happened yesterday. My daughter is able to walk and drive a car again, so it's much easier for her to care for the baby. Thank you to everyone who contributed in any way. Because of the generosity of friends and family and a lot of labor from ward members and my son-in-law's brothers, they have been able to get everything done without having to borrow a lot of money. They almost feel guilty because their neighbors are not as far along as they are because they didn't have as much help, but my son-in-law has been helping the neighbors as he can. The only bad news concerns the friends they have who housed them after the flood (the family where the mother had a baby the day before the flood). Their oldest, who is 4, has been diagnosed with leukemia. Apparently, with the type he has, there's a better percentage of remission, but it is obviously a very difficult time. He started chemotherapy this week. So, I'm sure prayers would be appreciated. Thank you again for everything. I know I can be a pain in the neck, but I am glad I have good friends I can count on.
  4. I Can not Walk, in need of Prayer (starting yesterday)

    Please see a doctor. Hoping and praying for the best outcome for you.
  5. Gee, I thought you were doing us a favor by marking the parts we could ignore.
  6. No, just makes you a loyal member of the church. Nothing wrong with that.
  7. I've never ranted about the church in my home, either. What would be the point? But yes, my kids have asked me my opinion about a lot of things, including religious and political issues, and I tell them what I think.
  8. Nope, I didn't say that. I'm just noting a statement I mentioned in an earlier post that had been said by a believing church member.
  9. My kids must be more curious than yours. I generally tell my kids what I think when asked. I don't see the value in remaining silent.
  10. As I mentioned, an active church member said exactly the same thing to me, only he said it approvingly.
  11. I have not questioned the intentions of the brethren.
  12. What should parents do if they disagree with the policy? Suppose their children ask them what they think. Should they tell the kids how they feel, or keep it to themselves? I would think it's possible to be honest with your kids without slandering and demeaning church leaders.
  13. As others have said, the reason this strikes home to so many is that most of us have gay family members or friends, many of whom are affected by the policy. I don't know any polygamists, and I wasn't aware of the policy regarding them, but I've said before I disagree with that policy too, even though I think it's not analogous to the situation with gay families. I've said why I disagree with the policy, and I've tried hard to give rational arguments that are not based on emotion. I think the horse has been dead a while, so time for me to stop beating it.
  14. Give it a rest, Bob.
  15. What's been interesting to me is the members I know who are really upset about the policy but have not expressed it publicly. Despite what some people think, the church isn't a big issue in my life anymore, so I never bring up the subject. But I have had family members and friends in the church volunteer how troubling this has been to them. Obviously, that's just anecdotal, but never before have I seen anything like this, not even with Prop. 8, which likewise happened in the age of the Internet.