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    Spider-Man Has Left the Church

    All threads concerning the validity of Joseph Smith seem to come down to polygamy and that one of them was 14 years old. That can be said in a quick statement. That 14 year old was Helen Mar Kimball and her story is much more complicated than that sentence. When people hear this about this 14 year old, they assume he had sex with her or at least that is the implication. Never mind that there is not much evidence that intercourse ever happened or that Heber C Kimball approached Joseph Smith. Helen`s devoted her life to the Church and her son became an apostle (Orson Whitney). That can`t be packed into a little blurb. Richard Bushman gives the strong opinion that Joseph Smiths polygamy does not invalidate all of his other life’s work. Yet its an obstacle. So what are we to do? Millennials have a short attention span and they can`t bother with newspapers or extensive research. Terryl Givens laments that he has to do podcasts to get his work out as many will not be exposed to his work otherwise. There does need to be a compact, hard hitting response to the CES Letter. Entertaining, detailed and readability are paramount for the response. The fact that the CES Letter speaks so well to millennials does point to Rummel`s success and ingenuity. Maybe another millennial with the chops can craft the response. The CES Letter is not going away, as much as I wish it would.
  2. This has always been interesting to me. The arguments go back and forth. There does seem to be some heart benefits of a slight amount of wine every day. I think other food substances may be able to do the same thing. I think that we like studies that “prove” what we believe about the Word of Wisdom. There will be other articles claiming the benefits of alcohol or coffee. I think you abstain from these because of your faith in God. If there are health benefits, then that is a bonus, but not the only reason to keep the commandment. Also, not a good reason to change what one consumes. Science is trying to define issues like this, but it is far from proven for many, many issues, including alcohol.
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    D-News Reports 63,500 Missionaries Are Serving

    This is the coming home and leaving time of year. We have had four come home and two leave this summer from our ward so far. We have two more coming home in two weeks. It would probably help to compare October to October. I don't know what the real number would be and maybe it is dropping comparatively, but a good number of people are moving around the board in the summer. My son came home on July 7th. I do think the number of sisters serving is going up, but I don't know what that number is.
  4. I purchased the streaming, which I usually do. It made me make a new account because I couldn't remember the old one. There are parts that have the same information, so it wouldn't take my email and keeps trying to change it, when I login to correct it. I have tried to contact FairMormon. It says I haven't filled out each field (even though I have). There is no phone or direct email that I could write, so I don't know what to do. They have been sending me the newsletter/blog for years, so they should know how I am. Any ideas?
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    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    I have found myself not feeling like I should have to respond ad nauseam to negative ideas. Most of the time I don’t post then. With Bill, like most critics, the answer is long and detailed. I’ll take two items though. The Church as an abusive parent. I find that there have been issues with the Church, but by and far very nourishing and supportive. Helen Mar Kimball. 14 year old wife of Joseph Smith. Helen Mar Kimballs story is far more complex than the one liner about how terrible Joseph was. Not a bunch of evidence about sex, etc.
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    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    Convert from Ohio originally. Quite a story actually. So not your typical Utahan.
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    Bill Reel announces he faces impending Bishop's Court

    When Bill first started, I really liked his podcast. They have just gotten more and more negative. I remember defending him on this board and a number disagreed with me. As I recall, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing and he will eventually be out of the Church one way or the other is what I heard. There are plenty of times I have disagreed with his conclusions. He will yell over you and is never wrong. Bill seems to only choose the negative, the most extreme cases. Historical analysis requires balance. Something John Turner does pretty well. Even if I don't agree with everything John Turner says. Hopefully, Bill finds peace. He has been pushing the envelope of excommunication for years. Surprised it took this long.
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    Woman Denied Temple Recommend for ...

    I don't think we can totally avoid these confrontations. There is a portion of the population that is going to shout out loud on FaceBook, Yelp, HealthGrades when things don't go the way they want. My parents told me that they were always going to believe the teacher over me so to not to complain. I think plenty of times the teacher was wrong, but I learned to live with life not being fair. My guess is that if this Sister, who probably has many wonderful qualities and her justifications, had gone back with her husband that it could have calmly been worked out. If the stake president was still unreasonable, I would have asked if I could get an appt with the area general authority. Otherwise, this sounds like another black eye on the Church and a future MormonStories/MormonDIscussionsPodcast episode. Breastfeeding is good. Some reasonable modesty while breastfeeding also seems good.
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    How we succeeded at sharing the gospel

    There are medical explanations of near death experiences. For example neurons as they are starved of oxygen start firing up many impulses that can bring back memories. The posterior cortex of the cerebrum has the effect of a tunnel as it is again starved. Having said that, I don’t think all of the physiologic effects explain all details of NDE. There are some religious and national contexts for an individuals NDE that are found. I think some are made up. I had the experience of having my first wife appear to me during a surgery that was pretty serious. I wasn’t starved of oxygen that I know of, but it sure seemed real to me and still does. I have read quite a NDEs and the most profound one I read was by Eben Alexander, MD about his own. His is interesting in that it wasn`t an anoxic (lack of oxygen) circumstance. I knew he and his father. They were very serious people, both neurosurgeons.
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    NOM's, Progressive Mormons, and other groups

    I am the one asking the TR questions and I have some questions about history and doctrine that I haven't quite answered completely in my head. I think if someone started asking about the nuances of the question I am asking, I would probably just clarify that unless there is some type of sin, it is ok to have some beliefs that you are unsure about. That would include the fact that thinking about them in your head is different than teaching them in front of a class.
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    Dehlin Taking Things out of Context

    This was one of the funniest and truest posts I’ve read on this board.
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    Service animals/therapy animals

    People have wanted to take their service animal into the operating room during surgery. I actually think that certified service animals allowed in certain areas is useful and permitable. Airlines have had huge problems with people showing up with all kinds of service animals. Even a large 1100 pound pig and an emu. Nothing surprises me any more, even if I have a sympathy for those with service animals.
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    Dehlin Taking Things out of Context

    Unfortunately, medication also can seem to effect the ability to feel the Spirit. At the very least effects how we feel or cognate.
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    Identity theft protection company suggestions

    I have used IdentityGuard. Had pretty good luck. First thing is to get a credit report and go through it line by line. You probably know that. I think all the services protect you going forward. Fixing the past is a bunch of work and letters. I think you have to report it to your local police. They help you and you need a case number to help get some of these accounts off of your SSN.
  15. I figured since I know myself they would be unfounded. Is that okay? I can’t say the term unfounded accusations? I have had personal knowledge about a number of cases where someone has been accused of sexual abuse. Several of those were verified by a physician as not having been sexually abused. I don’t even want to start talking about couples going through a divorce and the accusations that fly back and forth. No one wants there to be abuse. The ends we have to go to seem severe. Missionaries can’t hold small children. Not even for a poor mom struggling with several kids. My main point was that the policy has put many wards in an untenable position.