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  1. Tears and Testimony

    I tend to agree. I think many mistake emotions as the Spirit as a matter of course. Some people (myself included) tend to have emotions very close to the surface when feeling the Spirit. Others do not. Other times, I am emotional but it is unrelated to anything spiritual
  2. Tears and Testimony

    So when the disciples on the road to Emmaus later asked "Did not our hearts burn within us?" was that not a feeling rather than just "pure intelligence?"
  3. Secret Combinations

    How about political think tanks like the Project for a New American Century? Neoconservatives who took full advantage of the tragedy of 9/11 (note I'm not sayin they caused 9/11) and used it as an excuse for unending war and plunder of natural resources in the Middle East.
  4. Really? I gather you know little of Brant Gardner's significant contributions to defending the Book of Mormon with scholarship rather than polemic.
  5. Abraham - Facsimile 1 Uniqueness

    This would be a good question for Robert F Smith.
  6. Tithing - exempt status

    I appreciate your thoughtful reply. What I would disagree with you about (at least somewhat) is the my wife and I "ARE NOT" Adam and Eve. Think about the endowment. Adam and Eve are typical of us - we are making covenants as if we were Adam and Eve. God is likewise no respecter of persons, so I would think He would deal with us the same as them.
  7. Tithing - exempt status

    We talked to one adoption agency and they said it would cost about $30,000. Yikes
  8. Tithing - exempt status

    Good to know. So here's my next question. I'm sorely tempted to use the money we would pay as tithing toward fertility treatments. I know it's between me and God at the end of the day. But is it just rationalizing, or is does it make sense that God would understand that we're trying to obey the first commandment to multiply and replenish the earth?
  9. Tithing - exempt status

    I've noticed for years that when I meet with the bishop to declare my status as a full tithe-payer, there is a box for "exempt." Perhaps someone on this board who has been a bishop can tell me in what circumstances a member might be exempt and retain a temple recommend. I'm asking because my wife and I have been trying to get pregnant for 2 years. The infertility is mine, and we have about 1% chance of conceiving without in vitro fertilization. The costs are staggering. We both work full time, and have virtually no tax deductions since we have no children. So we pay A TON in taxes. What does this have to do with tithing? Well, I've been thinking of the temple endowment. After Eve fell, Adam realized that he couldn't keep both of God's commandments (the one command not to partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil; the other to multiply and replenish), so he did what was necessary to keep the greater commandment. Without getting into too much detail of my finances, suffice it to say that what we pay in tithing would go a long way toward fertility treatments. Is it possible that an exemption could be granted while we're going through this?
  10. What's Happening in Venezuela?

    It pulled missionaries a while ago. I couldn't find anything else. I actually was trying las week to find a way to get financial aid to the people there. Heartbreaking. Socialism taken to it's only logical outcome.