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  1. So that's the third time you've misrepresented me. I have said that I support increasing the number of therapists. I support increasing the number of therapists. You continue to claim that the focus has been on apologetics, but that is pure speculation on your part. I frequently criticize Church culture which often creates and then exacerbates and diminishes mental health issues. I work professionally every day to combat that influence. So continue to make false claims about my motivations and my comments. Or run to other boards and misrepresented me there. It doesn't make your case here any more believable.
  2. You can pretend that that this is exclusively a BYU/Utah problem. Or that BYU isn't doing enough. BYU: 1,082:1 1,737:1 The mean student-to-counseling-staff ratio at colleges and universities, according to a survey of counseling center directors. Smaller institutions had smaller ratios, on average (705:1 at schools smaller than 1,500 students), while larger institutions had larger ratios (2,624:1 at schools with more than 35,000 students).2 https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/09/numbers.aspx. Or this report: https://www.boston25news.com/news/25-investigates-mass-universities-struggle-to-meet-mental-health-demands/821937464 Or maybe Massachusetts along with all universities nation wide is also suffering from the darn Mormon influence. Or this article: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2018-09-21/how-college-students-can-find-mental-health-services-on-campus Which states: A 2017 analysis by the center found that roughly half of students who sought counseling in the previous year had some symptoms of depression. Anxiety concerns had affected 62 percent. More than one-third of those seeking help had contemplated suicide at some point in their lifetime. Micky Sharma, director of the Office of Student Life Counseling and Consultation Service at Ohio State University—Columbus, thinks the numbers can be partly explained by the fact that many students who previously would not have attended college are now doing so, thanks to better treatments. In addition, he speculates, "this generation's constant connection to technology may be inhibiting their coping and problem-solving skills." Or maybe this professor is just trying to defend BYU at all costs. Or there is USC, hailed as an example of a university responding well to the current college mental health epidemic, where non-crisis students have wait times of 4 weeks or face being referred off campus.
  3. CBT is the most heavily researched modality, but largely because it lends itself to manualized, short term treatment. Unfortunately, the way most experimental research is structured i.e. by graduate students and faculty on an academic year timetable, this makes it much easier to investigate and rule out confounding effects. Like BlueDreams points out, the most reliable meta-analyses of effective factors in talk therapy point to the therapist-client relationship as more important than any particular modality.
  4. This is exactly what CAPS offers. The fact that the Trib didn't bother to report that is troubling. Maybe inaccurate reporting of the resources available further contributes to despair.
  5. Well, you stated that you hoped they would add therapists. They already have more than 2x and as many as 5x more therapists on staff. That fact alone seems impressive to me. I really don't think the number of therapists is the only measure of what BYU is doing to help. There are bishops that can be a source of support and in the case of need for more professional support, they can refer to outside agencies and provide funding. I said pretty clearly that I'm supportive of providing mental health treatment. I'm just pointing out that the availability of therapists at the student counseling center is not the only (or even most accurate) measure of the University's success.
  6. Shocking that BYU doesn't offer 10x the number of therapists as other State funded schools? I mean, I'm not opposed to making sure there is adequate access to mental health services. But I also don't know that it is any University's obligation to provide complete and immediate mental health care to every student.
  7. That's a really good question. I wonder why the Trib article didn't address that. Don't you think that would be relevant? National trends would suggests that long wait times and strict limits on the number of sessions is the norm.
  8. What is it with you and expecting criticism of the Church to be logical or to accurately reflect context? 😉 Doesn't it make more sense to just use any opportunity to bash the Church regardless of the facts?
  9. I'm blown away by the focus on BYU's "inadequate" resources when the Trib article explains how much worse UVU, USU, and UofU are in terms of number of therapists available. Talk about a double standard! BYU has between 2 and 5 times the number of therapists per student as the other Universities.
  10. Oh good grief Scott. Why would you bring up context? You know what fun it is to mock President Nelson or accuse President Hinckley of lying by taking quotes out of context and feigning innocence! Why you gotta be like that?
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    Oaks on Religious Freedom

    Ever the double standard from this crew.
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    Anniversary of the “The Policy”

    And if baptism is so important for these parents, they can easily bring their lives into conformity with the doctrine of the Church.
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    Anniversary of the “The Policy”

    That is only true based on your choice to arbitrarily treat the two situations differently. In both cases the Church has a policy that prevents the child from being baptized. I guess the difference is that you like one policy and not the other.
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    Anniversary of the “The Policy”

    You keep using that argument (not withstanding serious disagreements about the concept of agency) but refuse to explain how that is different from other policies that deny baptism to children based on the actions of their parents.
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    Anniversary of the “The Policy”

    From my perspective, this is an oversimplification of each situation. In each case multiple opposing goals and desires are at play. The priority given in each is different. In the case of a non-consenting parent, the Church could very easily baptize the child anyway. It is nothing more than Church policy that prevents the child from being baptized. The same is true in the second case. The Church could honor the autonomy of the individual and baptize them anyway. Only a policy of the Church prevents them. In the case of a child with same-sex parents, it is likewise a policy of the Church that prevents baptism. But just as in the case with the other two situations, to there is another party whose actions trigger the need to apply the policy.
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