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  1. I think he was simply suggesting that the best approach is preventative, rather than waiting to find a cure once it has become a problem. As the old saying goes, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
  2. I got tired of them too. The thing that bothered me the most was the shaming tone of many of those messages. Shaming is more harmful then helpful in addiction recovery. Having said that, I wouldn't have a problem with them addressing P in a more empathetic and productive way with useful resources and information. If these videos provide that, I welcome them full heartedly! From the title of the video -"responding with love" - I am hopeful. Hopefully there is valuable information on prevention as well. That is very needed. No more, "just say no" messages. What new tools and information are there for parents and youth for prevention. I wouldn't be too quick to discount these videos, there might be some very helpful information in them. The more help and support, the better!
  3. I doubt that missionaries encounter this much. I would guess that the vast majority of those who practice polygamy in these countries are Muslim. Missionaries are not allowed to proselytize Muslims.
  4. As others have mentioned your personal experience is not representative of mental healthcare in general. Regarding suicide rates and mental health access - that is like saying that a higher percentage of people die in the ICU compared to the general population, therefore you should never go to an ICU.
  5. My mommy always tells her friends that I’m “special”.
  6. Net-worth of a million dollars is a low bar? I must be a huge underachiever!
  7. From my personal acquaintances, there has never been a need to justify their disbelief or face the threat of leaving friends/family/job. I have never seen that once. The people who I know who leave the church don't need to justify themselves to believers or lose their friendship. The fact is, if a believer is cruel enough to dissolve a friendship over another's disbelief, no amount of attempted justification will help the unbeliever win the believers friendship - it will only further confirm to the believer that the unbeliever is lost. From my personal observation, I see disillusioned members aggressively attempting to justify their position more out of anger than anything else. They are not trying to preserve friendships, family ,and jobs, but their anger and feelings of being lied to and cheated drives them to a stronger devotion to tearing down belief then they ever had towards building up belief. In an Ironic twist, this often causes them to pay closer attention to the words of prophets than they ever did before. Instead of looking for light however, they search for darkness. Do you see the Church as a cult?
  8. It's kinda funny how that works isn't it! Sometimes people invest more time and energy sustaining and justifying their disbelief than they ever spent sustaining their belief.
  9. I am impressed that you watch BYU Hawaii devotionals with your free-time!
  10. Your probably more familiar with it than you realize. El is both used as a proper name for God and a general term for "God". You see it in compound words all the time, such as El-ohim (plural of El), or Isra-El (wrestles with God), or Immanu-El (God is with us), or El-shaddai (Almighty God). Elyon means "most high".
  11. I don't see a conflict. No more so than when someone pays for a class to learn any other form of complimentary and alternative medicine such as acupuncture, etc. The church should not be in the business of deciding which therapeutic interventions are appropriate and which are not. It should be up to the member to use good judgment and wisdom, and ultimately follow the spirit. Even Christ utilized folk remedies in healing, such as anointing eyes with mud...
  12. We can also be healed in many other ways too, and I don't think the church limits our healing to priesthood only. Just as the gift of prophecy is not limited to prophets, the gift of healing is not limited to men in the priesthood. I know of a women who's patriarchal blessing states that they have the gift of healing. Medicine is powerful. The placebo is powerful. It is all good and useful. Not to say that there aren’t charlatans, but sometimes the power of belief is enough. This is a pretty good read: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1979/10/i-have-a-question/can-healings-be-real-if-they-are-not-performed-by-the-priesthood?lang=eng
  13. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/church-offers-new-stretch-cotton-garments-for-men?lang=eng Quite a few improvements with these garments.
  14. Two years ago the church reached out to me via email to participate in a series of surveys. Every week or two they would send out a new 15-20 minute survey. I think there were around 6 in total. It was a fairly comprehensive survey regarding our thoughts on everything from boy scouts, temple garments, pornography, tithing, etc. I voiced my frustration in 2 areas, 1) as a scout master and the boy scout program, and 2) temple garment sleeve lengths (my garment sleeves frequently are too long for regular ol' t-shirts). 2 years later and the boy scouts are gone and they just shortened the sleeves for men's garments! Hurrah! I guess they listen. I was never offered any Amazon gift card though! I feel cheated.
  15. Late comers! Of course we would call it spiritual instead of "supernatural" gifts.
  16. I don't think it was intended to be off-putting either, some people are just naturally that way According to the KSL article, it was the bachelor's choice. Maybe he was afraid women wouldn't like him if he wasn't rich? Or, maybe he just likes to flaunt his money? Either way, it is off putting to me. I agree, I do think it depends on the couple - it's not always a deal breaker. What feels icky about this situation is that EVERY single contestant was WAY younger than him - by his choice. The fact that he doesn't have ANY women his age just makes this feel like an old dude trying to catch some young meet by dangling a million dollar hook - that's just nasty to me. Apparently it worked. He had young women turn down jobs and fly from New York to participate. And even though it was supposed to be a low drama event, the claws came out. I somehow doubt that would have happened if he didn't flaunt his money. It all just feels so cheap. It makes it feel less about finding a worthy eternal spouse, and more about hot young sex (for him) and money (for them).
  17. Has anyone else seen the billboards and heard about this? https://www.ksl.com/article/46576848/2-women-share-their-experience-at-the-lds-millionaire-event As much as I love The Bachelor show , this promises to be even more entertaining! I can't tell if there is going to be a show made out of this, or if this is just a marketing gimmick of the matchmaking company. Besides the fact that they used "LDS" in the title (I guess that ain't goin' away), this just feels distasteful to me personally on so many levels. The phrase "LDS Millionaire" itself just feels so dissonant to me. Not that there is anything wrong with being a Latter-day Saint millionaire, but the dissonance comes in the appeal to wholesome faith being combined with a more carnal appeal to greed. It sounds like the guy is around twice the age of most of the contestants too, which just makes it that much more icky. I joked with my wife that the FLDS should do a polygamy version of the Bachelor. "21 contestants, but there can only be ONE...looser!" What do you think, is this a sign of diminishing values in our culture and a cheapening of the most sacred institution of marriage, or is this innocent fun?
  18. It would have been dangerous both economically and socially - that kind of thing was simply not socially acceptable. I agree that it is not all bad.
  19. I think that zooming in on one piece of data, such as divorce rates, causes one to miss the big picture of what is really going on in the world. I simply don't understand how Cohen can claim this when his own graph clearly demonstrates a fairly even downward trend from around 2010 - 2016 in divorce rates for EVERY single age group except for those aged 55+. Not to mention, the divorce rates for the 18-34 year old age category appears to have remained fairly consistent since the early 1980's (between 11-13 divorces per 100 marriages)- not much has changed in that age group -so how can Cohen claim that lower divorce rates are primarily due to "younger women"? I don't get it, the numbers simply don't show that. Not to destroy your optimistic outlook on the world, but when you take these figures into perspective with the big picture of all relationships, things are not looking so good after all. I certainly wouldn't claim that things are getting better in the world of marriage/cohabitation, nor would I give millennials credit for saving marriage.
  20. See my last post. The divorce rates are actually higher for that age group today than they were in the past.
  21. Do you have some information on this? Between Denson's credibility and Bishop's memory, how do you know what is "key" and "relevant"? If he truly does have dementia, I don't know how you could really say this. One characteristic of dementia is the ability to form false memories, so the fact that he has admitted to something only after it was suggested that he did it is very weak evidence in the case of dementia. Having worked with many dementia patients, I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy...or their family.
  22. I'm not sure that is a fair assessment. The divorce rates for 18-34 year old's were less in the 50's, 60's and 70's according to this graph, so how can you say that millennial are doing it better? All this graph shows is that the older we get, the more likely we are to divorce - that appears to be more true today than ever before - but overall, divorce rates are worse in EVERY category, so I wouldn't say that millennials are doing better, they are clearly doing worse in terms of divorce for their age group than earlier generations. Can we really assess generationally if people are "doing marriage better" based on divorce rates? Not really. This might be more indicative of the overall social acceptance of divorce today than anything else.
  23. What does the bishop/priest do when they are unqualified to deal with certain issues? They send them to therapy!
  24. I don't personally see the humor. Which part seems unreasonably, that it took 8 years to get to Bountiful, or that the Lehites lived in Mesoamerica for the next 1,000 years? Why does it seem strange that a people would live predominantly in one small location for thousands of years? The Maya anyone?
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