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  1. I don't think it was intended to be off-putting either, some people are just naturally that way According to the KSL article, it was the bachelor's choice. Maybe he was afraid women wouldn't like him if he wasn't rich? Or, maybe he just likes to flaunt his money? Either way, it is off putting to me. I agree, I do think it depends on the couple - it's not always a deal breaker. What feels icky about this situation is that EVERY single contestant was WAY younger than him - by his choice. The fact that he doesn't have ANY women his age just makes this feel like an old dude trying to catch some young meet by dangling a million dollar hook - that's just nasty to me. Apparently it worked. He had young women turn down jobs and fly from New York to participate. And even though it was supposed to be a low drama event, the claws came out. I somehow doubt that would have happened if he didn't flaunt his money. It all just feels so cheap. It makes it feel less about finding a worthy eternal spouse, and more about hot young sex (for him) and money (for them).
  2. Has anyone else seen the billboards and heard about this? https://www.ksl.com/article/46576848/2-women-share-their-experience-at-the-lds-millionaire-event As much as I love The Bachelor show , this promises to be even more entertaining! I can't tell if there is going to be a show made out of this, or if this is just a marketing gimmick of the matchmaking company. Besides the fact that they used "LDS" in the title (I guess that ain't goin' away), this just feels distasteful to me personally on so many levels. The phrase "LDS Millionaire" itself just feels so dissonant to me. Not that there is anything wrong with being a Latter-day Saint millionaire, but the dissonance comes in the appeal to wholesome faith being combined with a more carnal appeal to greed. It sounds like the guy is around twice the age of most of the contestants too, which just makes it that much more icky. I joked with my wife that the FLDS should do a polygamy version of the Bachelor. "21 contestants, but there can only be ONE...looser!" What do you think, is this a sign of diminishing values in our culture and a cheapening of the most sacred institution of marriage, or is this innocent fun?
  3. It would have been dangerous both economically and socially - that kind of thing was simply not socially acceptable. I agree that it is not all bad.
  4. I think that zooming in on one piece of data, such as divorce rates, causes one to miss the big picture of what is really going on in the world. I simply don't understand how Cohen can claim this when his own graph clearly demonstrates a fairly even downward trend from around 2010 - 2016 in divorce rates for EVERY single age group except for those aged 55+. Not to mention, the divorce rates for the 18-34 year old age category appears to have remained fairly consistent since the early 1980's (between 11-13 divorces per 100 marriages)- not much has changed in that age group -so how can Cohen claim that lower divorce rates are primarily due to "younger women"? I don't get it, the numbers simply don't show that. Not to destroy your optimistic outlook on the world, but when you take these figures into perspective with the big picture of all relationships, things are not looking so good after all. I certainly wouldn't claim that things are getting better in the world of marriage/cohabitation, nor would I give millennials credit for saving marriage.
  5. See my last post. The divorce rates are actually higher for that age group today than they were in the past.
  6. Do you have some information on this? Between Denson's credibility and Bishop's memory, how do you know what is "key" and "relevant"? If he truly does have dementia, I don't know how you could really say this. One characteristic of dementia is the ability to form false memories, so the fact that he has admitted to something only after it was suggested that he did it is very weak evidence in the case of dementia. Having worked with many dementia patients, I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy...or their family.
  7. I'm not sure that is a fair assessment. The divorce rates for 18-34 year old's were less in the 50's, 60's and 70's according to this graph, so how can you say that millennial are doing it better? All this graph shows is that the older we get, the more likely we are to divorce - that appears to be more true today than ever before - but overall, divorce rates are worse in EVERY category, so I wouldn't say that millennials are doing better, they are clearly doing worse in terms of divorce for their age group than earlier generations. Can we really assess generationally if people are "doing marriage better" based on divorce rates? Not really. This might be more indicative of the overall social acceptance of divorce today than anything else.
  8. What does the bishop/priest do when they are unqualified to deal with certain issues? They send them to therapy!
  9. I don't personally see the humor. Which part seems unreasonably, that it took 8 years to get to Bountiful, or that the Lehites lived in Mesoamerica for the next 1,000 years? Why does it seem strange that a people would live predominantly in one small location for thousands of years? The Maya anyone?
  10. Are you suggesting that they really think that they are perfect or something? Lets clear this up. 1) The prophets are not perfect, because if they were perfect, then they would be lying by claiming that they are not perfect...which would make them imperfect. 2) If it is indeed true (I'm not saying that it is) that the prophets have harmed people because of their mistakes and have never apologized for anything, then this is further evidence that they are imperfect. Final conclusion...they are imperfect!
  11. So, either way you look at it this theist argument of contingency as described in the OP is nonsensical.
  12. I haven’t read or thought much about this contingency doctrine, but at first glance it seems illogical. If everything (as in EVERYTHING) is contingent on something else, then there could not logically be a first cause because that “first cause” must be “contingent on something else”.
  13. I hope that changes. My brother-in-law was overjoyed when he heard about the change. He was angry that he will likely not be able to attend his daughter's future wedding, this change gives him comfort that she can chose to include him.
  14. It is easier to offer empathy for one of your kids, siblings, friends, etc. If the person leaving is your spouse, on the other hand, that is a different story. This is what has happened with my in-laws. My brother-in-law was born into the church, served a mission, married in the temple, had two kids that he blessed and baptized, then decided to leave the church. He feels disillusioned and is angry, and is suffering a loss. His wife feels disillusioned in him and is angry and is suffering a loss. They both have lost something and deserve empathy. He feels cheated, she feels cheated. She honors the sealing covenant, he doesn't anymore. This leaves her feeling eternally abandoned by her spouse. She feels like he is being disloyal to the original vision that they shared for their family, which is partly why she chose to marry him. All of her expectations, hopes, and dreams of having an eternal companion in him, a priesthood holder in the home to preside and offer blessings etc. feels dashed. She expected her kids to be raised in the church, he doesn't want that now. You can see how this can be a very difficult situation for both and how empathy may not come easy when you feel cheated. Despite the initial struggle, they are doing remarkably well now.
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