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  1. I think this is exactly what most Latter-day Saints believe. I'm not sure you can find it explicitly taught in the scriptures this way, but this doctrine does appear to be most clearly taught in the Proclamation on the Family.
  2. As far as Catholic vs LDS beliefs, i guess the perspective depends on which side of the fence you are on. I can understand Catholics having a very hard time understanding LDS beliefs. From the LDS side, I think it must require some Catholics to have an extraordinary amount of faith to accept some of their own doctrines. If we hold to LDS theology, there will absolutely be multiple "Fathers"...the only question I'm raising is could they be sharing the same earth? (under the authority of "The Supreme Father")
  3. I like your thinking , it mirrors our mortal birth where we became mortal children of mortal parents once our spirits became clothed in a mortal body.
  4. I think you hit the doctrinal heart of what sets the Church apart from most Christian beliefs. Many or most seem to believe that man is fallen creature, deserving of hell and the full wrath of God...saved only by a benevolent Christ. The Church seems to stand well apart in its belief in a benevolent Father in Heaven that has the ultimate parental love for His children.
  5. If my brothers and I ever become gods ourselves and create spiritual children....wouldn't those children be cousins? In my theory, Jesus was the first born of the "The God". All other first born sons would be the first born of a lesser god (like me). Your're correct of course that there is no scriptural basis for my theory, but then I suppose that the scriptures we've been given provide only the tiniest part of what really goes on in the Universe, Time and Space.
  6. Your response yields a bit of support to my radical theory, therefore I like it!😊
  7. Recent events have caused me to reflect (again) on the Church's teaching that we are literally children of Heavenly Parents. While many of the Church's doctrines set it apart from other Bible based religions, I think the belief that we are literal spirit children of God is the most fundamental difference we have with other religions, and is the foundation for all other major doctrines of the Church. I believe this single belief enables a potential for faith among Church members that far exceeds what any other Christian religion has to offer. (which is easy for me to say, since I have very limited knowledge of what other religions teach 😊). I am curious, though, what others think it means to be a "literal" child of God, and what does the church actually teach as specific doctrine, as opposed to what many members may infer. I also wonder (no belief, just wonder...) if we, maybe, do not all have the same "Father in Heaven". When I look around my small part of the world, there are an awful lot of people...and I'm just seeing a tiny fraction of the current world population. I understand God the Father is capable of more than we can possible imagine, but still....that's a lot of children. The Church teaches that we have the possibility of becoming like God and creating (begetting ?) our own spirit children. If I ever got to that point, I would like to have spirit children...but not sure I'd want ( or ever be ready) to take on all the responsibilities of being "The God" that has to keep everything together through perfect Justice and Mercy. I would be open to the idea of sending my "spirit children" to a world where they could grow and learn and where I could hear their prayers and help them as permitted...but allowing "The God" to run the whole thing. So two questions I be curious to see responses for: 1) What do you think the Church means by "literal" children of God....or what do you think that means. 2) Any possibility there are a few "Heavenly Fathers" out there, who have children on this earth ?
  8. "loyal stewards of the past"??? President Nelson has made many "course corrections" in the short time he's been the Church President. But so far, nothing compared to the major course corrections introduced by President Kimball with the priesthood, scripture revision and the reorganization of the Seventy..
  9. A few thoughts: The principle of Charity, as taught in the scriptures and particularly in the Book of Mormon, like many principles of the Gospel has multiple meanings. The pure love of Christ can mean to have pure love for Christ as our Redeemer. The pure love of Christ can mean to love and serve others as Christ would do. That seems to be the type of Charity to which you are referring. Another meaning of Charity is to enjoy the pure love of Christ for us-individually- as we partake of the blessings of His Atonement and more importantly feel His love for us. Our physical or mental ability to serve others has little to do with Christ's love for us individually. We can enjoy true Charity in our lives regardless of our ability to serve others as we desire. As for allowing others to help you.... I have heard the apostles (Elder Bednar?) talk about one of the defining characteristics of Christ- his ability to put aside his own suffering and reach out to help another. It happened when after betrayed, arrested and led with a rope around his neck, he reached out in mercy to restore the ear that Peter had cut off. It happened when on the cross, he reached out to make arrangements for the welfare of his mother. Recently, a member of my ward was in a serious accident. This couple's first request to me was that ward members not be informed, as they did not want visitors, well-wishers or meals brought in. They are good people, but have tended to live the gospel on their own terms. I of course respected their wishes, but I was a little saddened at their request. Many ward members would have been grateful for the opportunity to serve. Here was an opportunity for them to emulate the Savior. In spite of their difficulties, they might have reached out to others and given them a chance to serve and to love as the Savior would - to show charity. You may be physically restricted from serving others, but perhaps you can serve them by allowing them to serve you. You obviously know the joy of helping others - why not give others the blessing of also knowing that joy by serving you? ....another way you can serve with limited mobility - write notes/letters to ward members, family, friends. Pray about what others might need to hear. You may be a messenger of Charity to someone who is struggling. Our greatest growth come during our toughest times.
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