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  1. ALarson

    Marriage covenants

    The Law of Chastity wording has been changed and was different back when polygamy was being practiced by church members (the wording in the temple).
  2. ALarson

    LDS Personal Faith Crisis- 2013 study

    The issues for most arise when learning the details of how Joseph (and other early church leaders) lived polygamy. I think most know he lived polygamy and accepted that he did....but many are just now learning the details (him marrying teens who were Emma's young housemaids who she loved as daughters., etc.) and how much was done behind Emma's back and the lies and deceit involved. And even if members can get to the point of being ok with all of that, then they learn about the polyandry and how Joseph married other men's legal wives. Where was that ever commanded by God for other Prophets to live?
  3. Yes, I agree that was personal (I honestly did not see that post before now). I'm glad to see she has now apologized to you for that comment.
  4. I definitely agree with you that it's a fair question (and fair to discuss) in general. But when someone personalizes it into an attack or insult directed towards only one person, that is wrong to do here. That was the point I was making, and now I'm moving on as directed by the mods.
  5. I highly doubt I did that exact thing (remind me what that was regarding? Sounds like a bit of a misrepresentation, but I'll own it if I really did do that! ). But as I stated above, I know that I've not been perfect on here and I honestly do try to apologize if I misspeak (I just did so on the previous page on this thread). Once again though, that does not excuse the personal attack from Kenngo. I hope you see that was wrong to do when he has no idea about any of the details of that other case. Ha...did a search and found what you're referring to: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/70952-spider-man-has-left-the-church/?do=findComment&comment=1209849606 I'd actually have to revisit that thread to see if I misspoke....I might still believe you were being foolish or making yourself look like a fool (just teasing a bit!)..... Sorry if I offended you at the time...I really mean that.
  6. I would have if I'd seen it (I admit that I haven't been on here much and have not read every single post on this thread)....if what you say is true. Can you link to it? I really do not like any type of personal attack on anyone here and would have spoken up if I'd seen it. I know I've slipped at times too and have really tried to apologize when I do. Either way, Kenngo should not have taken it to a personal and insulting level (when it was about an entirely different case from the past that we do not have details on).
  7. What you did was wrong, Kenngo. You have no idea what took place regarding the trial in the past where she was on the jury. You were judgmental and insulting with your questions and insinuations. If you had simply stuck to the case that is being discussed, she has been very honest about where she stands. She fully admits her feelings and opinions on this case and even has stated she wouldn't want to be on this jury. Hey...just apologize....and move on. We've all misspoken or over stepped at times. Maybe at some point, she will share some details about her other trial and you'll learn more regarding what took place with that one (another topic for another thread possibly ).
  8. Ok....it appeared you were adding to that discussion. I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
  9. Once again, what Kenngo was being personally insulting about (with his inferences and questions) was another case, not this one being discussed. Abulafia hasn't claimed that she should be on the jury if this case goes to trial or claimed that she's completely impartial regarding it. She's been very upfront and honest about that from what I've seen. But there are several on this thread who are not impartial if they're being honest (and I wouldn't want them on the jury either....).
  10. Do you know the facts regarding the case where Abulafia was a member of the jury? That's the case that Kenngo was referencing with his comments and questions. How on earth would you or he know if Abulafia had any prior opinion regarding the accused or knew anything about the case prior to being a member of that jury? He asked: Also....I've not seen her claim that she should be allowed to be on the jury of the case being discussed in this thread if it goes to trial, have you?
  11. Possibly, if it had been asked as a general question just as a part of the discussion. But that's not how it was asked. The post is personal and insulting. It insinuates that Abulafia would have been willing to convict someone who was innocent of something as serious as child abuse and that she may have been unable to be impartial on the jury she served on ("Should we contact the defense attorney who represented the accused in that case and warn him or her that the jury which rendered a verdict against that client may not have been impartial?") The same thing could be asked regarding those on here who have consistently argued for the other side of this discussion (could they be impartial?). That would be a fair question to ask, if it was not made into something personal. I have to believe that everyone in this discussion would weigh all the evidence if they were serving on a jury for a trial involving convicting someone of child abuse. To imply that Abulafia could not be fair (and was not able to be impartial on the jury that she did serve on) is getting too personal, IMO.
  12. What a judgmental comment (and a personal insult). Without more details, you absolutely have no way of knowing this accusation is true.
  13. ALarson

    Wrapped together as a scroll?

    Here's an older thread on here discussing it and giving some thoughts, insights and other references regarding this: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/43905-the-earth-shall-be-rolled-together-as-a-scroll/
  14. Did he state that "the gospel" was not fully restored or that "the Church" was not fully restored? (I do think there was another thread on this, but I haven't been on here much lately....)
  15. I found them extremely interesting and have been following this thread. I'm sorry that you feel like a "lone voice" because I know for a fact that you're not alone here. This is an emotional topic for me, so I try to avoid threads discussing the abuse that is being discussed here (I've learned from experience to avoid them now). So, I apologize that I've not been of more support for you. I honestly hate the false memory stuff and accusations and really do not believe much in them. I firmly believe that the great majority of memories that adults have of early abuse are real....and especially when they are supported by physical evidence such as is present in this case. I don't know who abused these kids, but I 100% believe they were abused. I acknowledge that the "who" can be open to discussion here. I feel you have been a voice for many and not just A VOICE, but one of honesty, integrity, bravery and fairness. Thank you, Abulafia.