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  1. Church Statement on Medical Marijuana

    Addiction has a rather specific definition. It is distinct from, although related to, dependency: In general, drug "addiction" is defined by several factors: 1. A physiological effect which creates a physical dependency upon the drug or substance. Withdrawal of the substance causes marked physical distress even if the addicted consumer receives a placebo and is unaware they are not receiving the actual substance. The physical aspect of addiction is usually understood to be universal, or nearly so: virtually everyone who consumes opioids long enough develop some withdrawal symptoms of physical withdrawal. It is often advisable to "titrate", or tsper-off slowly from such substances to mitigate the physical withdrawal symptoms. 2. A concomitant psychological dependency, which can usually be mitigated by recourse to a placebo or a substitute for the substance. This tends to be less universal: not everyone becomes mentally or emotionally attached to substances. 3. A detrimental or destructive trajectory, wherein the substance brings on undesirable personality or physical effects. 4. A necessity to increase dosage of a drug or substance even to toxic levels in order to replicate the experience or sensation created by initial consumption of the drug. 5. Extreme challenges, often equating to an inability to discontinue use or consumption of a drug or substance without aid/intervention, even when made fully aware of the destructive trajectory the continued use will precipitate. Several of these factors have not been established with respect to marijuana consumption, as also with caffeine use or pornography habits. They ARE established with respect to tobacco, alcohol, opioids, and a number of other substances. Dependency is distinct from addiction. Many people in Saint Louis are dependent upon caffeine. This does not reflect long-term destructive effects on such people's lives. Many of them remain as nice and as productive while consuming coffee, tea, or Monster beverages as they are without such crutches. Some, actually, are MUCH NICER, and more productive, after their coffee than before. I have no idea whether porn similarly has a felicitous effect on consumers, apart from crude office jokes which infer that bosses appear nicer when they have been with their partners than during periods of extended abstinence. I am supportive of the Word of Wisdom and the Law of Chastity as spiritual disciplines, but don't think that caffeine or porn rise to the level of true addiction. My reason for opposing cocaine and heroin as recreational substances is that these are so clearly addictive that they obliterate the use of free agency, which must then be reconstructed. As long as the addiction remains virulent, the addicted individual remains enslaved to the sources of addiction, and not able to function as an equal in a libertarian society. People who say that marijuana is not addictive are not stopping their ears: they are affirming that the conditions defining addiction have not yet been established with respect to pot.
  2. Church Statement on Medical Marijuana

    I'm hearing thst sutomotive accidents due to impaired driving are up in states which have decriminalized marijuana, but not as much as expected--and, in many of these states, cell phone use while driving may also be a factor. My ONLY objections to legalized MJ have been to the impaired-while-driving issue, and the health burdens which WILL become a factor for those who smoke their pot in years to come. Most of the issues which tobacco users experience are also risks which pot smokers can reasonably expect to confront. As a medical product, it is being used to mitigate issues for people already seriously ill. So: less of a concern. I don't mind recreational users getting a few minutes of joy in life, but if they rob others of joy, due to avoidable accidents caused by impaired driving; or, if they trade a few minutes of pleasure, short term, for decades of diminished quality of life due to lung diseases, these are not fair trades. My thoughts.
  3. Church Statement on Medical Marijuana

    From my news feed. My VA doctor mentioned this as a growing problem: Apparently, it is not uncommon. Kind of like horrific hangovers after a binge-drinking bout. Folks, the human body really prefers to be treated better than this. Over anything (food, water, exercise, drink, drugs, TV, video games, sloth, work) will eventually take its toll. Not exactly rocket science here, but way too many can’t seem to grasp this basic concept. Perhaps it demands too much “adulting.” Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thoughtfulpastor/2018/04/10/gleanings-newspapers-ditch-privacy-pot-posture-problems/#uZFCwb3hB5mi8ojC.99
  4. Prayers requested

    Bit late. I had asked a week ago and never hooked up. Was under the weather and missed Church. Sunday.
  5. Prayers requested

    Going to the hospital in the morning for an angiogram. If they find any narrowed arteries, they will insert a stent. Prayers requested.
  6. Church Statement on Medical Marijuana

    There is a Catch-22 here: the best medical research is done under FDA auspices. But with marijuana listed as a Schedule 1 drug, such research cannot move forward.
  7. Church Statement on Medical Marijuana

    How would the bishop know? It's not one of the standard TR questions. If the member, in good conscience, felt they were using MM appropriately and as prescribed, for bona fide medical purposes, why would they volunteer the info? Does the prudent and appropriate use of prescription Oxycontin cause the loss of a TR?
  8. Prayers requested

    The head nurse for my VA primary care physician thinks the headaches I've had, mainly on weekends, for several months; and the angina and the strange episodes for which I went to the ER this week and last, are likely related to something called "transient ischemic attacks", (abbreviated, "TIA"); a sort of mini-stroke which does no damage. It's a warning that a full stroke could be impending. Most folks either don't get such 'warnings' or else ignore them, so they are a blessing in disguise. My blood pressure has been climbing for nearly a year, doing damage to my arteries. While I was working and active, the blood couldn't slow down & clot up so readily. On weekends, when I was mostly resting and my BP lowered, the blood could start to thicken and clot a little, impede blood flow and bring on the headaches. I have missed a lot of church because of those headaches. Once the doctor put me on meds to lower the BP, this impedence of blood flow worsened so that I developed other symptoms--the TIA's which started on Tuesday, for which I went to the ER. I've likely been very close to a full blown stroke for many months, possibly a fatal one, so once they do my angiogram and resolve any blockages, I will probably go on blood thinners and need to stay on a lowered sodium and low fat diet. And hydrate. Keep my blood nice and runny. The elimination of caffeine (due to my LDS faith) may have had a bit to do with lowering my blood pressure and bringing on headaches. But since caffeine raises BP a bit and would've been adding to damage to my arteries, it was overall a good decision. FYI. Thanks to all who have had me in thoughts and prayers.
  9. I put the quote box into my post, as you suggested. Lindsay has been correcting this thing since she posted it. Any who are friends with her on Facebook can let her know of any edits.
  10. A woman named Lindsay Hansen-Parks prepared the timeline, which I coped verbatim. Sorry if that wasn't clear. . Lindsay is an editor for a journal called Sunstone Magazine, and she is a feminist/ProgMo, but a member of the Church in good standing; whose main claim to fame is a pocast series called "A Year of Polygamy". She has won the trust of a number of women across the spectrum for her handling of sensitive issues. Hence, SHE received the call, not. I Iurk a lot. Thanks for the warm greeting but I've been around. Just quiet.
  11. Timeline preparedd by Lindsay Hansen-Parks, available from her FB page:
  12. Prayers requested

    Over the past ten days or so it has emerged that I do have heart disease. Tests to determine the extent and to put together a treatment plan are ongoing. Family and close friends have been made aware of the details which I currently know. Present advice is for me to reduce sodium and fat intake and raise activity levels. There are challenges associated with this latter, as I have angina, COPD, back injuries, knee and hip problems, and arthritis--to name the leading limitations I am working under. Some of the well intentioned advice I have already received doesn't take into consideration how much certain activities aggravate one or more of my other conditions. I am working with professionals to put together the best plan for my situation. Thanks in advance for any thoughts, encouragement, prayers, and/or best wishes.
  13. Why I've been MIA from the board

    Congratulations!
  14. Who heard the disruption?

    Respectfully: many if not most ex-Mos in my experience see all those things you mention as impostures. They see us as being as misguided--and our leaders as being as nefarious. They see us as Leah Remini sees Scientologists. For the activist ex'Mos, General Conference is a cherry opportunity to attempt to burst the bubble of as many brainwashed victims as possible. At a minimum, it is a chance to broadcast to a concentrated # of members of the Church any real or imagined harm the activists want to underscore--either to give hope to similarly wounded sufferers, or to awaken empathy in some leaders or future leaders, that change might be wrought. Or, failing this, that publicity will bring outside forces to bear on the Church. (Sonething very like this occurred in Australia, against the Church of Scientology, and has been very damaging to the CoS over there). I understand the sentiment--whether directed toward LDS, towards Jehovah's Witnesses (who have their own variant on our Conference), Southern Baptists, or Scientologists. I think it has minimal effectiveness. I never was a fan of Alinskyite tactics, nor did I ecer want to focus my life around being "against" something rather than for something. When I left the LDS Church, I left it to take part in other things. I left the LDS to do their own thing. So: I don't think ex-Mormons usually see General Conference as an opportunity to "celebrate together" anything with beliving LDS.
  15. Dealing with chronic pain/illness at church

    Here in the greater Saint Louis area, blood laboratories, Urgent Care, and Cardio Care facilities are located in strip malls. With reportedly some of the best medical care available. To receive an Illinois medical marijuana card requires a doctor review your medical history, approve use of marijuana for one or more conditions, and issue a prescription. There are a tiny number of uses of marijuana which have almost indisputable medical benefits--post-chemotherapy nausea for example. Some other uses exist for which there is pretty fair evidence from Europe or Canada, where research has been less constrained. There's also a lot of hype. Anecdotally, it would be hard to find a condition which someone isn't claiming that pot COULD mitigate. I actually explored the question at some length with my VA doctor. (As a federal institution, the VA cannot do much research nor prescribe marijuana unless until it's status is removed from Schedule One list. However, starting in late 2017, VA physicians were encouraged to familiarize themselves with available research and discuss any potential benefits with VA patients who enquire). Practically the only research with which the VA is cooperating of which my doctor was aware involves opioid dependency. (Marijuana seems to help wean people away, btw: but these are early results in a long term study). My physician has several chemo patients using MM with varying degrees of good results. She was doubtful it would significantly mitigate my particular concerns--chronic low back pain owing to fractures, along with hip and knee join pain owing to arthritis--and she worried it might worsen some issues. With COPD, smoking MM would be a poor means of medicating myself, f'rinstance. (Frankly, it would also be embarrassing to sit in a ward chapel wondering if I reeked of the stuff). There are other ways of taking MM, such as vaping, capsules, or edibles: but several of these are beginning to cause stomach problems. In my case, I decided MM isn't a promising way to address matters. But: had the consultation gone differently, I might have considered this an option. My point remains: many report very good results with MM, and it is a viable complementary treatment. I stress: as an ADJUNCT to other, more established treatments. Unless & until we confirm it's efficacy as a primary means of treatment. I had a grandfather with liver cancer in the 1970's, who opted to attempt laetril treatment in Mexico, rather than the newly-emerging chemotherapy treatments of that time. Laetril, (outlawed in the USA) is still sometimes touted, & is a nutritional supplement therapy for some cancers. At that time, its proponents ordinarily advocated laetril IN PLACE OF mainstream strategies for treatment. Granddad's decision to opt for laetril "instead of" established treatments may or may not have shortened his life: the cancer was rather advanced, and chemo in those days dramatically diminished quality of life for many patients, at least for several months: ergo, my grandfather felt that gaining an extra six months lease on life only to be deathly ill during most of those months, wasn't worthwhile. And: doctors couldn't even guarantee that chemotherapy would extend his existence. So, he elected to try laetril treatments and lasted only about six or nine months. Would he have preferred to have suffered for, say, six additional months under chemotherapy? My grandfather seems to have decided that he would not. I can only hope this was a fully informed decision for him. This shapes how I approach discussions of such matters, btw. Where alternative medicine can serve as a complement to mainstream medicine: OR where they prove so successful as to be adapted into the mainstream, I think such should be left between a doctor and a patient. Neither the law, nor any religious body, should intervene, IMHO. And: church members should attempt to refrain from making moral judgements in such situations. No matter how good or wise or "scientific" or skilled one's team of doctors and medical specialists may be, everyone, EVERYONE here is going to perish of their final infirmity. Most of us will feel ourselves breaking down, will be more or less aware that we are soon to enter that long dark night: and, we will not go gently nor without at least some suffering. How we mitigate that, if we are given luxury to do so, should be left between us and competent medical advice. Medically prescribed opioids are an option--increasingly, one accompanied by reservations. Medical marijuana deserves to be another. Imho.
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