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The Nehor

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  1. President Kimball, and the comment was in reference to those who felt incompatible and were already married who wanted a divorce, not as dating advice for single people.
  2. I was spelling it phonetically. Okay, that makes no sense either.
  3. The lesson we had we talked about the laborers who did not get hired in the beginning watching the sun go down as others are picked and not sure how they are going to eat that day. The early laborers got certainty early on. We also compared it to the prodigal and seeing others as siblings and not rivals. No one is getting their just desserts. We are getting something better.
  4. Oh, so you came to my class? Introduce yourself next time I teach.
  5. This. If God agrees with everything you want either you are God (unlikely) or you are creating a god in your own image.
  6. I skipped over a lot of that when I taught Sunday School yesterday. Parable of the Laborers was much more interesting and had a fascinating and deeply spiritual discussion with a lot of Holy Ghost testifying going on. Good times.
  7. I believe I met that family once (they are two stakes over).
  8. So if I lust after someone else in marriage, obtain a divorce, and marry the person I had I just need to repent and the scales rebalance? Sounds like a dangerous teaching......
  9. But the Savior says it is still adultery so they are repenting of the wrong sin.
  10. Saying some sins are worse then others does not mitigate the seriousness of the “not quite as bad” sins.
  11. At that point it is fornication and not adultery and adultery is generally considered to be much worse.
  12. I am also busting out the popcorn for this thread though probably for different reasons.
  13. Yes, but generally that is contingent on not sinning anymore.
  14. No, it is often used frivolously. I am not looking for loopholes. I am convinced a lot of people are going to hell for what they have done. I am the wrong person to try to convince anyone of the benefits or joys of celibacy assuming there even are any. I personally hate it and suspect it has messed me up a lot. Such is life though. If God wanted me to be happy and content in this life he would have designed the world differently.
  15. The Savior was dealing with a culture that treated frivolous divorce as casually or more casually then we do and the economic and social repercussions for women were much worse. Telling men to only divorce their wife if she is cheating on you was to cut off attempts to divorce her for her bad cooking or not giving you a son. Culturally in our time where we have a different concept of spousal abuse and women have more power I can see severing a relationship to avoid abuse towards yourself or your children. Jesus talks about “from the beginning” which refers to a Terrestrial world. If we were all living a Terrestrial Law that would apply to us too. We are not and even someone living a celestial law may have an abusive spouse living a son/daughter of perdition law.
  16. Even Jesus told the woman at the well that, at least until he died, salvation came through Judaism. They had authority but since power comes through righteousness power was much more rare.
  17. What is fun is when they stiff you on a job and then call up the next time there is a problem and they need help as if nothing has happened. I admit I have taken perverse pleasure in not helping them after that.
  18. The problem is more fundamental. You have people whose only job is to investigate violations. Unless they are lazy layabouts try are going to find some incidents worthy of investigating and will use the tools available to ferret it out. You would expect similar results if you assigned a special counselor to a bishop assigned to ferret out matters worthy of church discipline. If they are at all diligent they will definitely find a lot of “possible violations” and probably a few genuine cases. Same thing here. What I am trying to say is that they should hire lazy people to do the job. On an unrelated note, I am available.
  19. They just announced a September Fifth Sunday meeting on the new youth program. President Ballard will give it via prerecorded video. One session for adults run by the Bishop and one for Youth and Primary ages 8 and up run by a counselor. On November 17th all children and youth aged 8 and up will be invited to a broadcast given by Elder Gong and the auxiliary presidencies involved (YM, YW, and Primary).
  20. Perhaps but the word “gay” was coopted from happy people. Now I cannot even say that I feel pretty and witty and gay without people staring.
  21. I now want to get a t-shirt that says “I suffer from DSA”
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