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  1. Divine Love Is Conditional

    “If ye keep my commandments, [then] ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.” “If you keep not my commandments, [then] the love of the Father shall not continue with you.” “If a man love me, [then] he will keep my words: and my Father will love him.” “I love them that love me; and those that seek me … shall find me.” “God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.” The Lord “loveth those who will have him to be their God.” “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”
  2. Divine Love Is Conditional

    Or you could read the talk and see all the scriptures provided that explain this point. Why would President Nelson's view change from what scripture says?
  3. How can one trust the Holy Ghost

    That's putting it mildly.
  4. New First Presidency

    Call it style, call it content, call it focus, call it approach. Elder Uchtdorf selected and provided more traditionally Christian topics than other brethren. Much has been written and observed both in the Church and without on Elder Uchtdorf's discourses as compared to other of the brethren. The same can be said of Elder Holland. And others. They all have their own approach. And Elder Uchtdorf's discourse on grace turned a lot of heads.
  5. I agree. Converting the entire world was never an option and prophecy indicates that sooner or later, time's up. The Church is worldwide, everything is available on the internet, it's been nearly 200 years since the gospel was restored, and we are well into the 7th thousand years by any scriptural measuring stick. I have no idea the hour or day, but I would agree that it's time to focus on reactivation and retention, on preparing the faithful for what is to come. The time for fishers of men will end and hunters of men will begin soon enough. (Jer 14:14-16).
  6. New First Presidency

    Thank for clarifying. I wasn't sure I remembered correctly. I think we all spend too much time on this board. My wife would agree with yours.
  7. New First Presidency

    Agreed. Absolutely 100%. I still think that President Oaks is ideologically more like President Nelson than Elder Uchtdorf would have been. And perhaps that was one consideration in the switch.
  8. New First Presidency

    Correct me if I'm wrong or misremembering, but aren't you already a polygamist like President Nelson? I seem to remember you were going to remarry after the loss of your late wife.
  9. No, his length of service as an Apostle. It is seniority by ordination, not age.
  10. Adam, flesh and soul

    In Mormonism Eloheim is understood to be a plural word, and the head God bringing forth the Gods refers to his calling a council of the members of the Eloheim. For example: Genesis 1:26 has God speaking to the other Gods ("Let US make man in OUR image") Genesis 1:27 tells us that there are male and female Gods. ("In the image of God created he him; male and female created he them") Genesis 3:22 has God comparing mankind to the Gods plural ("the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil") Traditional Christianity would attribute this to the Trinity (God speaking to himself I suppose).
  11. New First Presidency

    Funny. I don't think any commandment of God, whether currently in force or not is suitable for mockery. When it was being practiced it was considered a sacred commandment, and is/was a temple ordinance. Yes, it was tough, but God doesn't give commandments to make us miserable.
  12. Maybe when everyone hits 75% it will trigger the second coming and calamities....
  13. New First Presidency

    I actually like that article. I think it shows what I've been saying clearly about the distinction in doctrinal focus between various brethren. And then, in typical Trib fashion, it turns it into a social issue and attempts to imply that the Church won't have as much to offer to certain groups. I have no patience for that either. The gospel is what it is. It hasn't changed, shouldn't change, and definitely doesn't need to change any standards to be more inclusive. But taking Presidents Nelson, Oaks and Elder Uchtdorf's approaches as examples we can see that the observations are still correct. October 2017 - Oaks - The Plan and Proclamation - Nelson - The Book of Mormon - Uchtdorf - A Yearning for Home April 2017 - Oaks - The Godhead and Plan of Salvation - Nelson - Drawing the Power of Jesus Christ - Uchtdorf - Perfect Love Casteth out Fear October 2016 - Oaks - Sharing the Restored Gospel - Nelson - Joy and Spiritual Survival - Uchtdorf - O How Great the Plan of Our God April 2016 - Oaks - Opposition in All Things - Nelson - The Price of Priesthood Power - Uchtdorf - He Will Place You On His Shoulders and Carry You Home Yes, this doesn't give full context or do these discourses justice. I am sure that all three focus on Christ, mention love, preach faith etc. But I think the topics of choice evident even in their discourse titles show a clear difference in approach to the gospel, plain enough for anyone to see.
  14. Has anyone noticed

    It was three years between Brigham and Joseph, three years between John Taylor and Brigham, nearly two years between Wilford Woodruff and John Taylor. If ordination as President of the Church was required to exercise the authority in D&C 132:7 that would mean years where God had nobody on the earth in that position. Fortunately, as Elder McConkie points out, that is not the case. The priesthood authority passes automatically to the appointed successor. The calling as Church President can come later, and as both Brigham and Joseph showed they don't have to be the same person, even though they always have been.
  15. New First Presidency

    Probably true. But I found his quote I referenced quite accurate, unlike the political speculations about Elder Uchtdorf and the LGBTQ community. I try to avoid the political and focus on the religious. That is what these callings are. I personally still think that President Nelson (or the Lord) chose President Oaks in part because they have similar approaches to the gospel, approaches that are somewhat different than Elder Uchtdorf and others.