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  1. What a ridiculous hate-filled post. I may not approve of homosexuality as I believe it is against God's plan, commands, and order, but almost everything you say about homosexuality here would qualify as hate speech and is just wrong. I am concerned at how many Church members are in favor of SSM and want more tolerance of such relationships, but this OP is just nonsense.
  2. Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Some have speculated that the "morning stars" were the daughters of God... Lucifer was call a "son of the morning" before he fell. The righteous are to be resurrected in the "morning of the first resurrection". Morning signifies righteousness, not evil.
  3. Do you really think God is so petty a creature that his primary purpose in creating man is to receive worship and glory for himself? Yes, when we become like him we glorify and worship him through our actions, but he created us to become like him first and worship him second.
  4. I would want nothing to do with such a God. If the extent of our relationship with God is to do nothing more than worship and glorify him forever I would have no respect for him. Thank goodness that kind of God only exists in the misinterpretations of the Bible some people have.
  5. Someone doesn't understand here. Perhaps it's you. Family is the only real joy, the only paradise of God. Being in and nurturing and growing a family is the work of God for a reason. "God is love" makes more sense when you understand WHY he loves us. No love, no joy. I'll take an eternity of ever increasing familial love over all the other "joys" in existence. And IF that includes polygamous marriage I am positive that those participating will see it as an increased opportunity to love, not a cruel joke.
  6. Our good friend Johnnie enjoys posting here and I for one enjoy reading some of his posts. He is taking a polite approach to criticism because overly bold statements come across as aggressive on this board (as your OP does) and can lead to banning. That's not "snowflake" behavior on this board, it's called respectful discussion. You want Ex-Mo's to start slinging rocks around this board? Why? You know what will happen. The MOD's will ban them and this will become an echo chamber. Now, if you are saying that Ex-Mo's in general have become softer and more in need of coddling, I think that is merely a reflection of our society in general. You can say the same thing these days about many Church members. Not too many Brigham's and Heber's around these days.
  7. Because despite their lack of faith, they wondered if their Father was right. Both accepting and denying required a certain amount of faith in a position.
  8. Statements like this are purposely designed to play on our feelings but ignore truth. Of course all should be able to be on their journey home to Christ at whatever stage and not be looked down upon. But these kind of statements of acceptance imply a lack of needed change. The "culture" he is protesting in this article isn't about man made rules and image (although that is very common in the Church). That culture when lived sincerely and not for show is about demonstrating a willingness to give our very best to God. It doesn't matter if it's a widow's mite or a million dollar temple, it's about giving God everything you have, the very best you are capable of being at that moment in your journey. It is amazing how many people don't recognize that. The people in the quote above should be welcomed with open arms as giving the best they are at that stage of their journey, but they should be working to become better. The problem with articles like this is they do nothing to encourage improvement, only to encourage the acceptance of stagnation and sin. This article isn't about real love. God loves all his children. He also loves law and principle. His work is to get his children to follow law and principle. Not to accept their rejection of it. Christ loved the woman taken in adultery. That's why he told her to go and sin no more.
  9. I don't think the issue is desperation. It's a lack of priorities. Seriously, where does your focus need to be for this to matter?
  10. Seriously, who cares? The most sacred thing in all of Mormonism (the temple ordinances) are already available for anyone to read online. NONE of these leaks compare at all to that, nor does it matter if there is a mole in Church headquarters. Anyone who thinks one of these leaks will bring down the Church or force a major change is dreaming.
  11. Or will it be more like: Congratulations! Here is your eternal permanent record. Good luck getting into Harvard with those scores...
  12. ..."Well done my good and faithful servant."
  13. Isn't that proving to be the truth! So many people simply wouldn't want heaven. That's what we tell a lot of people. I don't think that means everyone will be happy about the judgment. Something about weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth when they find out what they missed out on. They will be sent to the glory they can abide and will be most comfortable with. But it may be wrong to suggest they will be happy knowing what they could have had and rejected.
  14. I wasn't giving any limitations on how that judgment will work. But you also didn't address the style in which judgment will be presented. I am curious if people think these scriptures are a literal or poetic description. 2 Nephi 33:11 And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye—for Christ will show unto you, with power and great glory, that they are his words, at the last day; and you and I shall stand face to face before his bar; and ye shall know that I have been commanded of him to write these things, notwithstanding my weakness. Jacob 6:9 Know ye not that if ye will do these things, that the power of the redemption and the resurrection, which is in Christ, will bring you to stand with shame and awful guilt before the bar of God? Moroni 10:27 And I exhort you to remember these things; for the time speedily cometh that ye shall know that I lie not, for ye shall see me at the bar of God; and the Lord God will say unto you: Did I not declare my words unto you, which were written by this man, like as one crying from the dead, yea, even as one speaking out of the dust? Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. D&C 128:7 You will discover in this quotation that the books were opened; and another book was opened, which was the book of life; but the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works; consequently, the books spoken of must be the books which contained the record of their works, and refer to the records which are kept on the earth. And the book which was the book of life is the record which is kept in heaven; the principle agreeing precisely with the doctrine which is commanded you in the revelation contained in the letter which I wrote to you previous to my leaving my place—that in all your recordings it may be recorded in heaven. And Alma 5:17-25. I am not stating that there will be debate. I am asking if you think the courtroom (judgment bar) or throne room (judgment seat) are poetic devices or will there literally be a court? Will a verdict be handed down?
  15. I was thinking the other day about our inevitable final judgment, when we are all called to stand at the bar of Christ and be weighed in the balance and other such poetic turns of phrase. So I am wondering how people picture that, based on the available doctrines and teachings etc. Do you see a courtroom (throne room) where you get an opportunity to argue your case? That seems unlikely. Do you see a courtroom (throne room) where a sentence is handed down on an already decided verdict of your life? Do you see it more like getting your report card at the end of term and seeing what grade the instructor gave you? Do you see it more like a Bishop/SP interview where you answer questions and are either given the recommend or denied one? What style of "final judgment" do you think might await us?