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  1. Late "90s mission here to Central America. We were instructed by our mission president to invite for baptism within the first 5 minutes of the first discussion. We were even taught to say something similar to "we will be holding holding baptism 2 weeks from this Sunday. If you come to know what we are teaching is true, will you be baptized on (such and such date). I averaged about 2 baptism a week throughout the duration of my mission. Anywhere from an 8 year old who we would just get a parent's signature, to families who would be investigators for months. Unfortunately ,the majority of my baptism were of the younger variety. If I were to bet, I would say that 90-95% of the people I baptized went inactive within a year of their baptism. Of this, I feel somewhat ashamed. When I was Ward Mission Leader, I tried my hardest to make sure our local missionaries did not make the same mistakes that I feel I made. Quick baptisms! I am glad the culture has changed and is continuing to change. As far as gaslighting, I'm not sure. I would probably give the benefit of the doubt, but I find I am a very trusting person. I don't believe the apostles are whitewashing or deceiving the members.
  2. Nothing. I don't think I am unique as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. Uniqueness as individuals is a relatively new concept in society. For thousands of years, a population was unique, and the individual members of the population were a part of their unique group, but didn't consider themselves unique within in the group. So I feel I am just an every day "Mormon", just like the majority of "Mormons" who belong to the Church of Jesus Christ. Honestly, there is no need for me to be unique.
  3. I recall a story from the bible. Jesus was with Mary, who was anointing his feet with some very expensive oil. Judas asked if it would have been better to sell the oil in order to provide for the poor. Jesus said there will always be poverty, but he would not always be with them. We are tithed to give to Christ's church. We are not tithed to give to the poor. And these two things are not mutually exclusive. A person can both pay tithing and give money to charitable organizations.
  4. Right now our bodies are made out of a conglomeration of atoms. When we die, our atoms return to the universe (probably stays on earth and are recycled into other material). When we are resurrected, I am assuming, that our bodies will again be made of atoms. Will we need to re-grow from a single cell again? Not sure. Can God just form bodies out of atoms, like a puzzle? Not sure. I'm not sure it even matters at this point in our progress how it is done. But it will be done and I am guessing a few of us will eventually learn how it is done.
  5. Saved by grace involves both justification and sanctification. A person who has served a prison sentence is justified before the law. That does not necessarily make him a good person. All it means is that he served his time. In the church, a person is justified (saved) by repenting and being baptized, OR, by fulfilling Godly punishment in afterlife. Doctrine and Covenants 19 speaks to this Godly punishment. Verse 17: But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I. What that punishment is I do not know, but to be justified they must go one of those two routes: repentance or punishment. Sanctification is the "all we can do", and it involves receiving the saving ordinances and "enduring to the end." These ordinances must be sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise, meaning you can't live a lie of just getting them done if your heart is not on God. This is also an act of grace by the atonement as we are still far from perfect in and of ourselves. But in essence, sanctification means we are being perfected in Christ. And that is grace. And that is how the atonement (grace) can exalt us.
  6. Don't we believe in "line upon line" and the such? Of course with new information our beliefs can change. However, our faith and hope should not change or waiver. Divine truth as well will not change. The divine truth would be that there is an authority given to man called the priesthood. As far as who can and cannot wield the priesthood it not part of divine truth and can change.
  7. Spending money on one thing does not preclude the ability to spend money on another thing. A perceived disparity is just that: perceived. We have no idea how much the church spends on humanitarian aid each year. Between the Bishop's storehouse, paying for members bills as needed, responding to disaster relief, and donations to charitable organizations, I'm guessing it is quite a bit.
  8. Can the church be led astray? Possibly. Was the church led astray in the time of David, when he was on his naughty path? It doesn't appear to have been led astray. What about when Solomon allowed other cultures to infiltrate the area? We know that Peter and Paul disagreed on things. Was it led astray then? I think God puts in enough checks and balances so that it won't happen. The "Great Apostasy" was foretold. God has not foretold to my knowledge of another one happening. Of course I am biased because I am a member of what I consider "His" church.
  9. If a person follows the advice and example of Christ to the best of their abilities and understanding, then yes, they are Christian. And fortunately it is not for me to decide, but it is between them and God.
  10. I took it to mean that if the husband is not temple worthy, his spouse cannot receive all the blessing associated with the temple. This would include reaching the highest level of the C. Kingdom because her spouse was was not worthy enough to achieve it. Hence she will not be with her spouse in the C. Kingdom. This reasoning seems pretty niche, as I understand that she would probably have an opportunity after the resurrection to find someone who is worthy.
  11. Not all revelation needs to be canonized. In fact, I believe that most revelation does not need to be canonized.
  12. Doctrine is canonized, not revelation.
  13. I know I am late to the party here, but I just want to put in my 2 cents. Firstly, revelation is God's communication with man. Revelation can come in many forms, whether it comes by a feeling, prompting, or a shouting voice. But revelation by itself does not mean that mistakes cannot happen just because God gave an OK using revelation. Joseph Smith wanted to share pages of the BOM with others. We all know the story. He asked God a few times, but always received an answer of "no". (This is considered revelation). He pestered God long enough that finally he received a different answer, "yes". (That too was a revelation). Funny how he received two different revelations from God that seemingly contradicted each other. Ultimately the pages were lost from history, which is a shame. I firmly believe that revelation came in some form to create the policy, and then revelation came again to rescind the policy. I don't know all the intricacies, but I do know many members were deeply hurt because the policy came to be in the first place. It doesn't affect me in any way at the moment, but I know it affected others. So if this is God's will, I am fine with it.
  14. I heard a rumor yesterday about your "wonder". From my mom, who heard it from my cousin, who is married to a man whose father works with the GAs. So 4 times removed. Hah!!!
  15. It was always my understanding that when we are told to "judge not", the judgement has more to do with worthiness. We should not judge how worthy or unworthy someone is in the sight of God. That is between that person and God. A bishop is called as a "judge in Israel" to help in the repentance process, but the rest of us should abstain for judgement. If I see someone who drives a beat-up car, my likely conclusion is that that person is relatively poor. That is not a judgement in the biblical sense because it has nothing to do with worthiness. If my conclusion is that that person drives a beat up car because they have sinned and God is punishing them financially, that would be the judgement we are told not to do.
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