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  1. One could say anything speculative about Thomas without biblical proof. As for the Book of Mormon, we see the opposite clearly stated. The people (including those who would become the 12 disciples) lacked faith. They only really believed after seeing and touching Jesus when he instructed them to (see 3 Nephi 11:14-16). Thanks, Jim
  2. I couldn't find anything in the Book of Mormon but Jeremiah chapter 24 has some comforting words in the parable of the good and evil figs. Thanks, Jim
  3. Even though Jesus prompted Thomas to see and touch to believe, Thomas did not touch HIm before uttering his profession of faith. "Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe. Thomas answered him, My Lord and my God! Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (ESV) Notice that Jesus did not say "because you have seen me and touched me." Thanks, Jim
  4. According to 1 Nephi 1:18, what were some of the marvelous things concerning the destruction of Jerusalem that Lehi saw? Thanks, Jim
  5. I am not part of the LDS leadership so I cannot say what disciplinary action needs to be applied. But I suppose something public needs to be done at General Conference or the Ensign magazine to call out the teacher and clearly indicate why a teaching is false. If the false teaching is allowed to remain 'in the wild' so to speak, it will cause damage. Thanks, Jim
  6. I like what Mr. Packer said long ago - "It isn’t a question of who said it or when; the question is whether it is true" (1977, Follow the Rule, speeches.byu.edu). Thanks, Jim
  7. Since you don't believe Eve was formed out of Adam's rib literally or that God caused a deep sleep to come upon Adam literally or He closed his flesh afterwards literally, then what do those actions symbolize to you? Thanks, Jim
  8. How was Eve figuratively taken out of Adam? What is God's actions of causing a deep sleep to come upon Adam and closing his flesh to form Eve figurative of? Thanks, Jim
  9. Upon how many? Only the apostles or also the 120 disciples mentioned in Acts 1:15? Thanks, Jim
  10. Based on the language, I believe it was literal. Adam was formed of the dust of the earth as the scripture says too. I also believe God created literal food for them to eat. Thanks, Jim
  11. Would you bold those parts of Russell M. Nelson's statement (mentioned earlier) which you believe are figurative and underline the parts you believe are literal. What is your understanding of these verses? Moses 3 21 And I, the Lord God, caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and he slept, and I took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh in the stead thereof; 22 And the rib which I, the Lord God, had taken from man, made I a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said: This I know now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of man. Why did God cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam? What does it mean God closed up the flesh of Adam? How was Eve taken out of Adam? Thanks, Jim
  12. I saw this mentioned in a church teaching manual (pg. 19): Moses 3:21–23. Adam’s Rib President Spencer W. Kimball taught that Eve was not literally created from Adam’s rib. He said: “The story of the rib, of course, is figurative” (“The Blessings and Responsibilities of Womanhood,” Ensign, Mar. 1976, 71). (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/manual/the-pearl-of-great-price-student-manual?lang=eng) About 11 years later, Russell M. Nelson (of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles at the time) said in General Conference: "From the rib of Adam, Eve was formed (see Gen. 2:22; Moses 3:22; Abr. 5:16). Interesting to me is the fact that animals fashioned by our Creator, such as dogs and cats, have thirteen pairs of ribs, but the human being has one less with only twelve. I presume another bone could have been used, but the rib, coming as it does from the side, seems to denote partnership. The rib signifies neither dominion nor subservience, but a lateral relationship as partners, to work and to live, side by side." (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1987/10/lessons-from-eve?lang=eng) Does the Pearl of Great Price Student Manual's reference to the 1976 article (where the rib is figurative) take precedence over the 1987 General Conference talk (where the rib seems to be literal now)? Thanks, Jim
  13. Regarding crucifixion, there is no indication of that form of execution being used in Bountiful. Mormon 4:10-12 (dated A.D 364-375) mentions the Nephites and Lamanites being more wicked than the Jews of Israel. Thanks, Jim
  14. Who was the Saviour of the planet where the man (who would eventually be the Heavenly Father of our Earth) was born on and became a God? Thanks, Jim
  15. "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it, nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself, for it is given unto thee; but, remember that I forbid it, for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Why did God tell Adam not to eat from the forbidden tree and then remind him (emphasize again) in the same sentence that He forbade it (bolded part)? To me it says that while God is telling him that he is free to choose to obey or disobey (as we do with all the commands given to us), God re-emphasized that He forbade Adam from eating of that tree. Hope this helps. Thanks, Jim
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