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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    They can have their fossils, their observations, their experiments, whatever but they cannot claim their conjectures are correct ones. It is possible to have more than one possible interpretations for the same evidence. Or even have more than one narrative for what transpired over centuries, millennia, epochs, etc.
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    I am simply taking at face value the scientific article that was linked to that conjectured the long term evolution of the star becoming a diamond planet and the dynamics of the companion brown dwarf that sucked away all its fuel. Did the process take a few million years or a billion? I really don't care but the point is this was a natural process. Whereas the transfiguration of Earth will be done at God's command (the Word of His Power) which will be accomplished practically instantaneously (I am guessing less than a week).
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    JST as the Brass Plates

    Are you aware there are JST corrections of Isaiah passages in the BoM? Meaning the Brass Plates already had errors creeping into it before 600 B.C.
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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    Based on my understanding of the scriptures, glorification of planets is done by God with the power of the priesthood fairly instantaneously. That diamond planet is not glorified and probably took several hundred years or millennia for it to lose all its fuel to its brown dwarf companion. I do not think it necessary to understand the physical process. The scriptures frequently talk of rolling (or unrolling) the Heavens and/or the Earth. It is my considered opinion that this could mean shifting from one set of dimensions to another (part of the process of transfiguration).
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    Interesting. But that diamond planet is a remnant of a star. Not likely to be considered a result of a transfiguration. The following verses refer to heating process and rolling/unrolling (of dimensions): 3 Nephi 26: 2 Behold, will ye believe in the day of your visitation—behold, when the Lord shall come, yea, even that great day when the earth shall be rolled together as a scroll, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, yea, in that great day when ye shall be brought to stand before the Lamb of God—then will ye say that there is no God? D&C 77: 1 Q. What is the sea of glass spoken of by John, 4th chapter, and 6th verse of the Revelation? A. It is the earth, in its sanctified, immortal, and eternal state.
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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    I appreciate your thoughts and willingness to dialogue. Many scriptures refer to the Heavens being shaken severely at the Second Coming. We know that Earth will somehow be transfigured from a telestial state to the terrestrial. I believe that the universe has many dimensions, meaning Earth will be transported/transformed from one set of dimensions to another set. Same thing can happen for the Spirit World with its own set of dimensions.
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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    According to D&C 138, Jesus went to the righteous in Paradise (Place of Rest) in the interval between His Crucifixion and His Resurrection. He organize them to do missionary work among those in Spirit Prison (Place of Torment) but He Himself did NOT go there. It is my strong impression/ponderings with many years of study and cross referencing that when the Second Coming occurs, not only will the Earth be subjected to incredible tumults and horrifying devastations but it will be just as terrifying in the Spirit World. Then the veil of forgetfulness be taken off our minds and we will remember being in the presence of the Father in the pre-existence. We will remember the exquisite love and purity of the Father and many will feel like utter garbage before Him. Then we will - - - Rev 6: 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Alma 12: 14 For our words will condemn us, yea, all our works will condemn us; we shall not be found spotless; and our thoughts will also condemn us; and in this awful state we shall not dare to look up to our God; and we would fain be glad if we could command the rocks and the mountains to fall upon us to hide us from his presence. 15 But this cannot be; we must come forth and stand before him in his glory, and in his power, and in his might, majesty, and dominion, and acknowledge to our everlasting shame that all his judgments are just; that he is just in all his works, and that he is merciful unto the children of men, and that he has all power to save every man that believeth on his name and bringeth forth fruit meet for repentance.
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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    Yes, I feel pretty confident. I would think Jehovah is anxious to qualify all who are willing to covenant to fully embrace the PURPOSE of Elohim. Which is to: 1- recruit intelligences to become spirit children; 2- propose the next Plan of Happiness (the next Eternal Round); 3- to qualify the next generation of the gods. There 3 degrees in the Celestial Kingdom. The highest degree can only be entered into by couples that have faithfully kept their Temple Covenants and endured all the refining tests. I have no info on what it takes to enter the 2nd and 3rd degrees. There would be no rush for resurrecting lower orders. Jehovah probably would want to keep the missionary efforts going full steam (to the bitter end, both on earth and in Spirit Prison). Some may have to suffer for their own sins (having taken lightly their opportunity for applying the Power of the Atonement during mortality). I do believe that people in Spirit Prison have the veil of forgetfulness over their minds. However, if I understand the verse in D&C 38:8, the veil of darkness (forgetfulness) will be taken OFF everyone at the Second Coming of the Savior. That includes both residents of earth and occupants of Spirit Prison. I do NOT believe there will be any impediments to missionary work in Spirit Prison. There could be any number of groups and individuals in various stages of preparation and qualification. The arrival of the recently departed souls will not effect the on-going work. They will merely be assigned to an existing group or they can be lumped in a batch of new arrivals. Review the vision of Joseph F. Smith: D&C 138: 30 But behold, from among the righteous, he organized his forces and appointed messengers, clothed with power and authority, and commissioned them to go forth and carry the light of the gospel to them that were in darkness, even to all the spirits of men; and thus was the gospel preached to the dead. 31 And the chosen messengers went forth to declare the acceptable day of the Lord and proclaim liberty to the captives who were bound, even unto all who would repent of their sins and receive the gospel. 32 Thus was the gospel preached to those who had died in their sins, without a knowledge of the truth, or in transgression, having rejected the prophets. 33 These were taught faith in God, repentance from sin, vicarious baptism for the remission of sins, the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands, 34 And all other principles of the gospel that were necessary for them to know in order to qualify themselves that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. 35 And so it was made known among the dead, both small and great, the unrighteous as well as the faithful, that redemption had been wrought through the sacrifice of the Son of God upon the cross.
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    Live webcam of Telestial kingdom

    It will be in a Terrestrial state, meaning its paradisiacal glory. During that time, Celestial resurrections will be ongoing (morning of the First Resurrection) followed by Terrestrial resurrections (the afternoon). I suppose Telestial resurrection will begin after the end of the Millennium? Meanwhile, all Telestial beings will remain as disembodied spirits in Spirit Prison. They will probably will be able to observe the events on Millennial earth. If they are not occupied with burning punishments or suffering the buffetings of Satan.
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    Do you believe that Satan is our brother?

    Lehi had a good answer for that: 2 Nephi 2:11 "For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my firstborn in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility." It is not like a certain segment of the intelligences were "condemned" to be "opposers." Opposition in mortality is very necessary even for the so-called righteous that need to struggle and learn from their mistakes and successes. Opposition stretches and expands our understanding and our acquisition of more and more capabilities. 2 Nephi 28:30 "For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have." Not all will want to be redeemed. Everyone will have gone through a "threshing" process of making their own choices. Some will stand in the Celestial Kingdom and decide they are NOT comfortable being there. They will choose to exist in the Telestial Kingdom or wherever they feel inclined. In any case, ALL will have greater endowments than what they were as intelligences before becoming spirit children.
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    Do you believe that Satan is our brother?

    Yes, carnal man has plenty of appetites and lusts that he will go whole hog on his own. Thankfully, most will come to understand the consequences of their actions and choose to moderate the destructive choices. But we all are born into the world with the Light of Christ that will help us choose good, better or best. Satan and his hosts are working frantically to counter the noble impulses (at least make us very humdrum, misdirect from doubling that talent).
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    Do you believe that Satan is our brother?

    God and Satan came from the SAME source as we ALL came from. All of us were intelligences of varying levels of capabilities. NONE of us had any "starting point" (there were no beginnings of beginnings). The "current" God invited us intelligences to become spirit children. From there the "threshing" process was on-going. Two third parts kept their First Estate and qualified to enter the next stage of progression, namely having the experience of mortality on a fallen and degenerate world with the veil of forgetfulness placed over our minds. The remaining third part will not gain physical bodies but continue to fight the implementation of the "Plan of Happiness" thus providing additional opposition that we need in this Second Estate.
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    Do you believe that Satan is our brother?

    2 Nephi 28: 19 For the kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which belong to it must needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with his everlasting chains, and they be stirred up to anger, and perish; 20 For behold, at that day shall he rage in the hearts of the children of men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good. 21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell. 22 And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none—and thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance. 23 Yea, they are grasped with death, and hell; and death, and hell, and the devil, and all that have been seized therewith must stand before the throne of God, and be judged according to their works, from whence they must go into the place prepared for them, even a lake of fire and brimstone, which is endless torment. 24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion! 25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
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    Just wanted to explain my username

    It better not be Ocasio-Cortez:
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    Ammon Bundy, socialists in the church?

    Hope you don't mind but I would be very interested in seeing the references for church leaders' comments.
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